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Almost daily , Fallguy makes totally idiotic statements, this time you have really out done yourself, old son.
Non assimilation I suggest, contrary to your fetid argument, shows total arrogance on the part if the immigrant if they refuse to assimilate into mainstream society. The failure to have that one conscious determination of why they wish to immigrate has been crucial as the primary catalyst of racial hatred and civil bloodshed throughout history, .We dont need it. You advocate immigration for all the wrong reasons....You twerp.
As for refugees, we owe them no more than refuge from harm, certainly not citizenship.
The politically correct like yourself and a few others on this forum and in this country, are no more than oxygen thieves and Quislings. your multicultural fantasy is going to bring division and ruin to this country, just like all the other cot cases worldwide. Despite your continous chanting of your mantra, there is yet to be shown one country that has made a success of multiculturalism. On the flip side , there is a literal dossier of the failures and the social stresses and animosities that have been created in the process just to feed the ambitions of ethnic lobbies and their willing dupes and elitist social engineers..
your comment "history shows the first generation immigrants retain their birth country identity although their offspring tend to become assimilated" is complete and utter tripe. Studies that have been done in fact showed the complete opposite.(until multiculturalism reared its ugly head).
"The 1988 research covered samples from the following groups of Australians aged 15 and over: NESB migrants; NESB migrants who arrived in Australia after mid-1981; second-generation persons born in Australia but with one or both parents born in an NESB country; and a general sample of the Australian population (74 per cent of whom were Australian born). In total, 4,700 people were interviewed. The migrants surveyed did not show much interest in ethnic community matters. Two thirds of both the NESB and second-generation groups indicated that they did not identify with any ethnic group, nor did 44 per cent of the recently-arrived NESB group. On the other hand when asked how important being an 'Australian' was in describing who they were, as indicated in Table 1, the great majority said it was very important or fairly important.
Another striking result was their response to the statement 'people who come to Australia should change their behaviour to be more like other Australians'. The majority of both the general sample and the migrant groups agreed with this assimilationist proposition (see Table 2). These views oppose both the official Government and ethnic leadership positions. But, from the individual migrant's point of view, the urgency of winning acceptance within the Australian community makes such opposition understandable. "
thanks to people with vested interests like Fallguy, who push the multicultural barrow for further their own "ethnic allegiances", this country is now going backwards from a hemogenous society to a separatist society based along ethnic and cultural boundaries.
The next stupid comment is "it is absurd to expect immigrants or refugees to learn English. they have every right to hold onto their mother tongue and continue to love their mother tongue above australia."
Unbelieveable bullsh!t!! To expand this philosphy to the "N"th degree will ensure we too will have our own Bosnias, Kosovo's and Rwandas. When a country's inhabitants are fractured in loyalties, then the country is an ethnic basket case, irreversibly damaged
As for our soldiers fighting for freedom, yes they did, but not for your version of freedom, that version is what they fought against, you advocate "invasion, colonisation and ultimate destruction of this country and its traditions.
you represent those they hated, the Quislings, the French Vichy , the collaborators........ Fall Guy, the Lord Haw Haw of the 21st millenium. Happily, These scum were eventually hunted down and hung, , just as you and your ilk will be if this country ever implodes through the destruction caused by your social experiment, and Fallguy, i throw my hat in the ring now to be the one to pull the lever. I dont say this lightly,but you are the epitome of a traitor.
"MIGRANT ATTITUDES TO MULTICULTURALISM
The views embodied in Our Nation undoubtedly reflect the concerns of organised ethnic community opinion in Australia. But this opinion is dominated by a small minority within the NESB migrant population. The ethnic movement attracts some people of migrant background who feel they are not accepted in Australia on account of their ethnic origins. These people include many Southern Europeans, whose limited English and industrial skills on arrival in Australia meant that they were initially segregated into low-skill, low-status work situations. Some of the low status associated with their jobs rubbed off on to a general disparagement of their migrant origins. Migrants affected by these assessments have an understandable interest in seeing Australia redefined as a multicultural society in which Greek and Italian-Australians, amongst others, have an honoured place. The ethnic movement also appeals to those who are deeply committed to the culture or religion of their homelands, like some Jews and Moslems, and who want government help in maintaining their community against assimilationist pressures. Finally there is small core of ethnic community leaders, administrators and intellectuals who have created careers for themselves as ethnic activists.
But these concerns have limited appeal even to the rank and file of the Greek-Australian and similar ethnic communities. Anyone who has observed the annoyance of people who have lived in Australia a long time but are still referred to as 'migrants' or 'ethnics' will have an inkling as to why. Most migrants' main interest is to be accepted as fellow Australians and to feel that they 'belong' here. This is especially so in the workplace, where it is crucial that they be able to progress without any impediments associated with their migrant background. For most, the main priority is to be treated on the same terms as locals. Any reference to ethnicity cuts across this objective."
your comment "Its also totally absurd to expect immigrants to learn English . they have every right to to hld onto their native tongue and continue to love their mother land above australia."
The right to maintian allegience to their mother country over their adopted country? NO WAY. This country wants citizens, Australians, not colonists, invaders
They have the right to maintain their mother tongue, AND an OBLIGATION to learn English, this country's mother tongue and an OBLIGATION to commit their loyalties to this country..
. The Japanese wanted to live off and profit from occupying S.E Asia and the Germans wanted the same in Europe. Millions of people died fighting against exactly what you advocate for this country, my home. No Way fallguy. We dont want more colonists and invaders, we want loyal Australians, something which you obviously cannot possibly comprehend.
what you advocate is "Blood on the Wattle " #2.
I notice your partner in crime backs you up, not surprising. The real truth is totally exposed in her stupid comment about the failure of the Republican push because of the british people living in australia and the pro british government. Do tell!
I know people of all ethnic ancestry who voted monarchy because they didnt trust Keating or any the self serving slime balls who peddled it. It was only the lobbyists of the Ethnic Supremacists, Anglophobes and the chattering class who cried when it dropped dead.
But even if we accept that argument, what it really does is expose the real fact that the ethnics who voted republican was not because they wanted a Republic but because they saw the opportunity to substitute any Pro British leanings for their own ethnic allegiances. This country is in dire trouble because of the likes of failures like yourself to leave your baggage at the boarding gate and instead agitate to rebuild the mess you left.
Australian society exists, it is not up for grabs, its served us well for 200 years so........ Its a simple choice, if you dont want to give loyalty to this country, if you dont want to assimilate with the mainstream of this country, if you dont want to learn the language of this country, if you dont want to adopt the traditions of this country, .....DONT COME HERE......there is no reason for you to do so, you have everything you want right where you are ,,,,,, you offer nothing that we need..
