hotcopper member rang brad , page-15

Yes. I'd call what happened to this stock 'catastrophic'. What other word would describe being publically vilified, shut down and taken to court?

(Jean-Claude Juncker)

"When it becomes serious, you have to lie"

Funny you lament the loss of 20th century ethics, but seem to endorse lying as recourse when times get tough....? An act certainly worse than whinging.