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Thats fine guys, you too have a huge right to put up your opinions. But most of us have inquiring minds, tell us how its done this manipulation. Please something a bit deeper than bots. I want to know how, why and by whom! I will even believe you if a proper supported argument can be put forward, not a witch hunt but real evidence.

I tend to believe the world is on my side unless I see evidence otherwise. Perhaps i am radically deluded and then I am whitling away my years before the grave in bliss and ignorace.

Please explain it, i am not being scornful, if there is evidence there I like that to think myself and many other posters who think management have been doing their human best and there is no impropiety going on, well id like to think we could recognise your evidence and arguments as well supported and thought out if they were.

These are serious issues, and it a serious request, one or all or you that think management have been doing a sub standard job and allowing favours for the boys etc, please explain in as much detail as you can muster how they could have done better and how the SP would have been higher and really whatever agreeves you and how it could have been better.

I would love a broad well explained talk through this.

Yours respectfully Tretch