I have looked at a lot of jordan maxwells stuff of which you are an avid fan dlux,and you feel quite confident and you have found the truth about what you are presenting
But imo,i agree with what you present applies to mainstream orthodox christianity,because even the bible itself,predicted the rise of this false religious teaching and the doctrines of men,i also believe this is a process how the elite control the minds of men
Im also in agreeance with rome creating islam by indoctrinating kahidja and using an arab man to create a new religion to control, for a future purpose,using hegalian dialectic
But in the end,i believe that without knowing the true facts about history of christianity,you are actually tearing down a straw man,much in the same way zeitgiest,maxwell,icke,sir lawrence gardener etc do
The facts you have presented are in regards to the origin of the roman catholic church etc,which there is no doubt historically their origin is pagan and invented
The true christian church,taught,teaches a completely differant doctrine and belief system,than has been presented in this thread
Before pagan rome became papal rome,they persecuted christians in the colleseum.
When rome became papal rome and transferred all the pagan practices and beliefs like saturnalia/christmas ishtar/easter trinity, sunday etc,they gave them christian names etc,and imposed these beliefs on those who wouldnt confirm to their belief eventually by penalty of death ie the waldensies,albgensies of the swiss and italian alps
Nothing changed,bible believers were killed at the stake for not conforming and changing to the state belief and the dark ages ensued and the world was enveloped in violence and darkness in all facets of life science and religious liberty
To just make broad statements regarding ancient cultural beliefs and practices and apply them to this culture and expect them to make complete sense in our current day and understanding of the way they understood and wrote back then,sometimes isnt that fair,and is drawing a long bow imo, without also balancing factors that clearly can prove its devine origin
After all,this book is the basis to the laws of the western culture and moral belief system of which is being torn down by globalist policy makers atm and replacing it with humanistic teachings,which is basically a rehashing of paganism etc
The person asking the questions,is always the one controlling the conversation,what is your position on origins etc?
What is your belief and stance on these things in order for your position to be put under the same scrutiny you have imposed on the book that has stood the test of time,and is the basis to the most free society that has existed in the history of mankind?
In regards to what maxwell wrote with regards to josephus writings of jesus"We now know that this quote was added in the Middle Ages by the Church. No Orthodox Jew like Josephus would penned these words!"thats an assumption,the fact is,it is in his writings,you cant say its in there only because the church added it?because it dosent suit the picture thats being painted,its in there
Also the archko volume or the archeoligical writings of the talmuds and the jews,pontius pilots report to tiberius caesar emperor of rome,certainly documents the trial of jesus and pilots report to caesar
Also the fact that the civilised western society culture is based by law and moral belief on judeo/christianity,to write the effect that this certain individual has had on history to say he didnt even exist,and to say that even blind freddy can see that
Are you placing your intellect above surgeons,prime ministers,scientists,presidents,lawyers throughout western civilisation,who according to you were not capable of descerning this fact of what their societies beliefs were originated from,and based on?the rule of law etc all these generations of people,they didnt know or study whether it had basis
Protestant belief and origins have completely differant beliefs and origins from the pagan form represented on this thread and by maxwell
http://youtu.be/FRKRR2NKDdk
people who see these things like maxwell assume you can put all christianity in the one basket,which is not only disinformation,but completely untrue,the two forms are as far away fromn each other in belief as night and day
Try explaining the differance to someone who only sees one size fits all ,usually if you cant do it in 5minutes,they usually dont really want to know anyway
But funnily enough after my rant dlux,i do see why you do see things the way you do
this would be my easiest reply to this thread,it will save a heap of explaining my veiws and replies to this thread by watching this 3part series,which basically explains the accusations leveled at all christianity assuming origins etc all came from the same place,which they dont
one branch claims to be christian,and origins are anything but,and one is christian and completely differant origins answers to maxwell and zeitgiest
