so what causes obesity, page-31

What a really interesting read this thread is ... so many informed and/or sage comments ... niloony (corn starch/sugar) and pintohoo (the carb efficiency of alcohol) are standouts imo.

Imo its also tied to a much much higher proportion of processed foods nowadays that contain the nasties mentioned frequently in this thread.

This has a lot to do with the corporatisation of food ... it is more profitable to start with cheap high carb food and add in flavours and cheap corn starch etc to make palatable, comforting food ... food that has little in the way of protein, fibre etc.

The associated issue with corporatised high carb processed food is that it is often nutirent dense, so it is easily possible to over eat and "carb load" before apetite is satiated.

Growing up, who amongst you was really able to over do it on brussel sprouts, apples, celery, cauliflower, bakery bread etc.

Who amongst you would sit down and eat 4-5 oranges in a sitting? Parents today condem their children to do just that by encouraging them to drink large glasses of processed and even natural orange and other juices.

My belief is that if you keep your diet high in "whole foods" and low in processed foods you simply will consume less calories as the "bulk" of vegetables and fruit etc will satiate hunger after a sensible calorie intake.

Anyone is asking for trouble if they think it is ok to sit down with a pack of pringles and a glass of processed fruit juice most days between work/school and dinner for example ... the scenarios can be different but the outcome is often the same.

Dex