any one else think this is a bit of a beat up by the welfare lobby AS they dont seem to have succedded yet in having family allowance increased to make up for the loss of single parent money I am not saying being on welfare is easy I lived on it with a wife and three young kids for about six months but both my wife and I forced ourselves back into the work force There is no other word for than forced so hard was it to get work at that time . WE now have three children all happily in the work force with two of them at least showing good saving habits The third has only been out of TAAFE for a year and we are hoping that he will start bshowing somew good saving habits now