hughes, I think you might come to the conclusion if you sit down and think about it for a while, that what you would like to have presented and accepted as "facts" are simply your opinions, and rather misguided ones at that.
You have your vote, dont waste it at teh next election.
Meanwhile, your scorn and derision and even some effort maybe might better focussed on the labour party and their leadership and spent in starting teh reform process for this seriously degraded organisation.
It would seem a better way to get the changes you think are necessary that deriding the good name of John Howard, who after all, is really no more or less a liar than any other politician but who many feel has done and continues to do an outstanding job.
