rudd is achieving the opposite with his constant rants. its costing more votes from the swinging voters. quite few of previous labor ppl are disgusted with labors last 6 years of replacing the pm's at will. there is no return for labor in this election. as for future,well we'll talk about it in 15-20 years time. even then they would have to be carefull about the mentality of pm candidate they choose. very carefull inded'because ppl do not forget so eazy. vistica