god’s use of force—is it justified? , page-17

Pinto,

you say

and only logical that if you have punishment you don't have free will..


no it's not.

i have free will, i also am free to drive my car at or under the speed limit.

if i choose to drive over the speed limit, i get punishment. if i choose to drive under, i don't. my free will

you say

Also totally illogical to think that plants will happily grow without the detritus of other life..

i say

you ever planted a seed in a pot and just added water? it will happily grow without the detritus of other life.

water is not alive and i don't see the detritus to the sun that the plant causes by photosynthesis, but that's just me.