fair value now a real chance, page-62

Zero agreed .

I don't think the rampers have much steam left anyways , nothing has gone their way for sometime , as we all wished it had, the writing has been on the wall.

I don't mind the downramping if it makes sense. Most of the ramping has been a bit over the top for sometime on here. Unfortunately the likes of meerkat and heretic have had good valid points and are dismissed due to the way it's worded for a emotional reaction , but sometimes it's what is needed, as you are well aware zero as you have been target as well.