"what there is to be liberated from are the very things you, 3GB, wish to be liberated from"
I dont think I was being a smart alec. I need treatment for my bad nerves, liberation from symptoms may be but I largely have that now.. I wouldnt mind liberation from work ( including killing things) I also would like liberation from the duty to my partner so I could chase after a young woman, but thats an abomination. So not a lot to be liberated from. I want to be closer to God or more worthy to him. Liberation from suffering and want fair enough but they arent a problem to me. Unity, humility and acceptance are better ideals in my opinion. Unless its an essential liberation is vanity.