If I hurt someone, I will try to make it up to them and never do the same thing again. I won't go and ask a invisible man in the sky for forgiveness, because even if he did exist, he isn't the one that I hurt.
Agree. The point I was making is that no one is perfect, and all need at times in our lives to seek forgiveness. I think that this is universally true, and we don't need specific examples to make the point.
I suspect that even the religious would agree that we need to make things right with people we have hurt.
I suspect that we are being caught up in semantics, and that there is no real issue.
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