sorry director12,
i did hesitate on that - and should have held back.
this is the problem with internet forums, "and god forbid", texting (an increasingly popular method for 'communication' today)
it can often be difficult, or impossible, to gauge what angle someone is coming from
the visual and audible cues are not present
so please forgive me for that
but, your statement could have being interpreted that way,
seriously, who would provide such a list?
untill they are caught, are they innocent until proven guilty?
like, it's all OK, until someone exposes them.
this is a share-trading forum, and we know well enough the tricks that directors and instos can play
if they pull a dirty number, they usually get ignored by the authorities, and if they do go down, then they often pop up somewhere else in a different shell.
this is a common enough human nature, that is widespread throughout every sector
the framework of the system is full of holes, and lawyers and crooks know them well.
think about it
all of these farms treat the animals with cruelty to various degrees
"organic" is just a word and many companies push it to the limit, same with "natural"
put yourself in the animals position, would you like it?,
stuck in a field eating grass covered with your own faeces, no shade from the rain and sun, no sex, artificially inseminated, unproductive males murdered not long after birth to by-products factories.
imagine a human woman being forced to give milk all day long - that would such big-time.
the list of atrocities is enormous
some folks don't like hitler, but don't realize that hitler is the rule, not the execption
i recently checked a jar of jam in the supermarket labelled as organic,
upon reading the ingredients, it was seen that it was actually 40% and 60% not organic, and even then then that could be out by a few percent or 10.
folks values often change when money is involved
some killed animal may be organic and still maltreated
out of interest
why wasn't it for you?
did you make the transition gradually or suddenly?
do you think it ever could be for you?
i'm no one special - just an average joe.
are not we essentially the same?
this thread is about what would jesus do.
say that you were walking along the road with jesus, and he says that he would like something to eat.
so, as you pass a fast food outlet, you beat up some kid and take his meal that he was going to eat.
then you say, "hey jesus i got this for you"
jesus then says, "sweeeeeet, thanks man, good score!"
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