Hopefully by using the 'debate' forum as a 'sacrificial lamb' for the politics forum. The LNP and ALP diehards can go at it and hopefully let decent discussion flourish on the Politics forum...
I think, for the sake of this thread you can group HC members as the following:
1) Not with us your against us LNP tragics
2) Everyone else (LNP tragics lingo is 'leftists')
