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Originally posted by wafflehead ↑

MH370

Has this plane crashed or is it still flying around looking for somewhere to land. Are the passengers still alive and running out of toilet paper or is it at the bottom of the sea somewhere and all are lost?

We do not have one skerrick of evidence to guide our answer. What do you think? Are we able to come to certain sound conclusions or not?

The universe is in a state of perfection and not only did it form to produce habitation, life also sprung forth from non-life and that life evolved and is evolving throughout the universe. Evolution also produced a sentient being who just happens to be able, via science to discover the mysteries contained therein. What do you think, are we able to come to certain sound conclusions or not? It was all just amazing good luck or is there some governing order at the heart of every vibrating atom?

We know that without a cause nothing happens. The universe and all therein happening without a cause would have to be the worst scientific explanation in science. Sure, one can follow the science back so far to the early beginnings of the universe where we then enter pure speculation.

The most extraordinary buildings and structures on earth speak of many wonderful minds and sciences being applied. The perfection of the universe speaks to this as well. And this cause must be extraneous and not part of the outcome just as a painter does not enter his painting yet his nature and personality might be reflected therein. I have no name or any mental images of what this cause is or might be other than the fact that I acknowledge that it exists.

This is the first principle atheists fail to understand. Nothing produces nothing.

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"The most extraordinary buildings and structures on earth speak of many wonderful minds and sciences being applied."

Bingo.
Why are such buildings and structures considered designed ?
We can compare a building to other similar type structures and conclude design.
We have a frame of reference.

Now ask yourself why life cannot be considered 'designed'
Life arose from natural processes in sharp contrast to 'buildings'(non-natural).

How can you assert the universe came from design when you cannot determine what a non-designed universe would 'look' like.
(no frame of reference for comparison).
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