Examining ADO battery, page-9

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    I need to protect my cash as much as ADO should do to its. For that reason I will be very careful in putting more of my money in anything battery related. It's a personal view and I need more evidence from ADO to change my mind.

    I bought in when ADO sp was 16c after reading carefully about its technological details and everything else. And now sp is 9c. It's not ADO's faults that some of projects have not progressed as well as they should. However, it proves a fact that investing in high tech is a risky business.

    It is just too much risk with battery thing. A123 Systems is a prime example. Founded by MIT engineers in 2001, owned over 130 patents in battery tech, got hundreds of millions from investors, went IPO 2009, market cap shoot through the roof, filed for bankruptcy in 2013. They experienced so many technical problems with their products over the yrs. If A123 is not an authority in the field then I dont know who is. Story about Envia Systems can be found in the link in my previous post.

    Below is the list of most promising startups in battery tech in 2013. Most of them founded by UC Berkeley, MIT engineers/scientists and the like. Remember these are picks of the bunch. There are many more startups out there in the field.
    https://gigaom.com/2013/01/14/13-battery-startups-to-watch-in-2013/

    Now in 2015 after 2 years I track them, non has made any commercial products yet.

    The battery concept is deceptively simple that makes people think it is like a lemon plugged with 2 electrodes. In reality, Li-ion battery chemistry is much more complicated & messy. Here is the link to the lecture by a Uni researcher who did some work for Tesla. (maybe very boring for non-science people!)


    Even he himself admitted that he did not understand many things. A real battery does not consist just cathode, anode, electrolyte and separator to separate anode from cathode. Cathode is not LiNiCo compound alone. It has 6-9 other chemicals in the form of additives and binders. Each has unique role in itself. It took Panasonic and the like many years to find the balance of those additives. A trace of contaminants can destroy the battery work-ability. Then we still have other parts of the battery such as anode etc. Battery companies dont even tell the outside researchers about the additives. They're company's trade secrets.

    Imagine ADO comes along and offers Panasonic a glue. Vola! 2 days later Panasonic tests their battery and finds 7x improvement. I hope life is that simple.

    Diagnostics is simpler at least by the look of it. You can start with some nanoparticles, Fe2O3 or gold, coat them with MixnGo, align the antibodies. These antibodies can detect certain molecules thus diagnose some diseases. Yet it still takes ADO many years to perfect & commercialize the technology.

    The thing with battery is that everybody has an iphone so everybody can see the battery problem. But finding solution is not that simple.

    Another thing is presentation to general audience, if it's made too simple people think it's easy and can make a quick buck with it. if it's made too technical nobody would invest money. I totally can understand the dilemma. However, it's fair to ask for more evidence for my better judgment (& money).
 
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