Questions remain for the AGW alarmists, page-17

Rubbish Tristanc!

And cheers to Ivar Glaever!

FIRSTLY

Have you watched the sequence in error? The figures from 1860 to date do in fact EXCLUDE ocean measures, AS DO the now famous last 18 years & 3 months ONLY THEN do the figures rise in the third chart, where the Sea Temps are included.

All legit - as Glaever both says AND shows.

See the first 0.8º drawn on the chart below. (Which you seem not to have seen?) What did you think he was possibly talking about, if you did not realise this?

Draw that chart if you will in Kº absolute scale, and the 0.8º increase average increase over 155 years from 1860 to 2015 the would be indiscernible. Irrelevant. A nothing. Plot 0.8º on a daily Kº scale for 155 years and the chart would be smoother than glass.

That is his point.

SECONDLY

His second chart the 18 years & 3 months IS derived from the same data as the first.

THIRDLY

Do I understand what you are saying here? It is so haywired.

You say "RSS data is a complex reconstruction from microwave measurements with many confounders, and covers a many-kilometres-thick column of air with little contribution from ground level and substantial contributions from the cooling layer of air above the tropopause."

So did they confound the data all the way back to 1860 from today? Did they make "complex reconstructions"? (and always has." ◄Your text) In 1860 did they have "microwave measurements"? (and always has." ◄Your text) and who the f&^k knows what a "confounders" are, and in 1860 "many-kilometres thick column of air with little contribution from ground level and substantial contributions from the cooling layer of and the air above the tropopause‼‼"◄ Oh yeah?

Maybe go check up on that.

Above the tropopause you find the the stratosphere, and the stratosphere gets warmer with altitude, that is what defines the stratosphere , unlike the troposphere which gets cooler with altitude ... The substantial contributions from the cooling layer must thus be BELOW the tropopause?

FORTHLY

So in 1860 huh?

The word "stratosphere" was only coined and then later introduced into the first English dictionary in 1908 by French meteorologist Léon-Philippe Teisserenc de Bort! Then de Bort only made the distinction to the word troposhere in 1914, as before this it wasn't clear the higher obverse altitude "thermo clines" existed.

The tropopuase is recognised as first discovered by Assmann (I kid you not) some years later! I'm not sure, but I imagine the temperatures taken at those altitudes up to and during the War II were scratchy, hardly pervasive, and certainly not reliable as best.

They were likely to be shitty at ground level too!

FIFTHLY

So in 1860 huh?

Scott reached the South Pole in 17 January 1912

Peary reached the South Pole on 6 April 1912

"Accurate global averages temperatures from 1860 to 2015 to record the critical 0.8º K "Is not possible!" says Ivar Glaevar, and I am afraid you are a fool if you think his critique of the 0.8ºK average thermal change is misguided!

IMHO




A rare thermometer from cira 1860's