You obvioulsy don't choose the right thread to read. Population gets talked about a fair bit here. You should focus on these rather than on gramma. We have debated population growth rates, sources of growth, mass exoduses, migrant waves, forecast growth, under supply/over supply as a result of this compared to building approvals and completions.
Oh a Patek is a piece of jewellery, some
might fell they need one, most can live without it..and you can NG it, or can you?