mookie11, I agree 100% with you.
I was just trying to see if we could draw blood from Clark Kents rock first and tackle the issue from his perspective to try and resolve it once and for all.
From what he explained using his ideas, it does not matter which way you go as both paths have the same flaw... according to his perspective.
So essentialy what he has been teaching is a point of view thats benifical and usefull for no one.
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