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@maddogjim,

You should know from reading my posts that I don't believe Shorten is a bad politician.

Many here will just blindly attack Labor because of their allegiance to the Liberal Party, but unfortunately for them, according to the opinion polls, a majority of voters don't share that.

You said:

"It seems not only politicians but also their supporters on both sides will happily trash any hope for a better Australia for the sake of their political masters ultimately narcissistic desire for power .......'tis an awful situation guaranteeing our failure"

Australia has had this two party system (I should say 2 1/2 party system beacuse the coalition is made up of two parties) for a long time and Australia has not suffered because of it.

If you think our current system is failing Australia, show us where is the alternative that has the potential to displace the current system, and NO, One Nation or the other fringe groups are NOT the answer.