@jambo12, that is Bernardi's view not mine. He has been on the record as saying that - google it and I recall him trying defend that position on the news as well. I personally can't stand the guy - if the idiot thinks children born to IVF are commodities then he hasn't a clue about the hardship people go through who cannot conceive naturally and has absolutely no apathy. As a catholic I find it utterly embarrassing to the faith that we have a catholic politician with this view.