i use a reliable and old method of picking the bottom macs,gut feeling,lolyesterdays high surge gave me a buy signal,just waited till i felt she was at bottom,check your chart on irl,shes bottom now with a movement upwards over the next couple of days,the other chart i use is the dartboard,i pin 20 od my favourite mining shares,and buy the 3 the dart hit,heh it works,lol,vwap fwl 80034,irl 328118