The real deal, page-6

Cool story. Are you sure you're are as comfortable with your investment as you portray? That post screams of a desperate attempt to get people to buy imo and an attempt to lay blame anywhere except for the company itself.

HC is to blame for the SP being in the doldrums... sounds legit. Positive (sometimes) unsubstantiated information is ok, as that helps to try trap more mug punters like us in an attempt to support a depreciating SP? and that is considered acceptable? Ethical? Probably worse than trying to get a 'cheap entry' in my book, but each to their own.

So, if all the blatant ramping these threads have seen over the years didn't make the SP go to the moon, how is it that alternative or opposing views make the SP go down? Can't just be a one way street. Mug punters don't drive the market, I don't understand why so many can't see this simple fact.

Fact is, those unsophisticated investors that didn't buy because of 'HC' in the last year, or maybe even 3, have been served a fortunate escape from Alcatraz, and their accounts remain healthier for it. I'd say that equates to warranting a balanced open minded views on HC, both good and bad. Mug punters (like us) can't support nor change long term down trends like OBJ has seen, maybe some influence on some day-to-day gyrations, but not much more.

There's a lot of smart people in the world. If this technology was as great as many say it is and will result in the paradigm shift many allude to, then why aren't all these super smart people (sophisticated & unsophisticated) buying every share available? Can't just be because of differing opinions on HC. What a load of rubbish. That would be the most narrow minded view possible. Must be more to it than that.

It didn't help that the company over promised and then underdelivered within an expected timeframe the company alluded to. That's a management issue though, not the markets so the market started to value accordingly to relative progress and started factoring in hype doesn't equate to speed to market I.e BG, surface hygiene.

But yes I agree, OBJ is now closer to proving its worth to the market than what it once was, only time will tell how that transfers into LT repeatable $$. We'll likely know when they are close as the 'smart' money will come and start buying again. 'Smart' money doesn't need to park it's money doing nothing (depreciating) for 3 years. It's a far more efficient (read informed) machine than us retail mugs. The old saying, 'it's not time in the market, it's timing the market.' Or something to that effect.

Carry on.