how much do we suffer with 3 to 4 yr gov terms, page-8

But generally there is no mongrel in them.

Anyway, I have been a little more bolshie today than the real me ... just presenting the contrary case as the jury here seems to have decided already.

Pretty much everyone here would get on famously over a few drinks in a nice beer garden I reckon.

If anyone is interested I have voted about 50/50 lab/lib over the past 30yrs or so .... I run a professional services business employing typically 30 to 45 staff ... the business has a very small turnover of staff (as evidenced by long service leave provisions lol) ... work choices has given me peace of mind but absolutely nothing has been enacted as a result of it ... having just won a large govt tender, we pretty much had to negotiate AWA's with relevant staff and all (as in ALL) of them were really happy with the process ... through mechanical and IT innovations I have been able to implement conditional productivity payments for all staff on that project.

Our younger staff are getting married now, getting motgages and having children.

The cost of all this to the Australian nation has pretty much only been my free university degree from 1976 to 1979. A good investment I hope you all feel. If I could change one thing that BOTH Lib and Lab now struggle with it would be a firm belief that universities should be free.

Anyway, take all my stirring comments today with a grain of salt. Have a good week everyone.

Cheers
Poyndexter