Originally posted by pintohoo
"You see that’s a bit selfish imo as it disregards the rights of those who have leased it and made improvements to benefit all Australians."
no - they only have the right to run cows - nothing else
and, no they have not improved it - they have and are destroying it - ref. WA department recommendations
and no, they do NOT benefit all Australians - they destroy the environment and they inhibit free access
the vast bulk of the land is empty - devoid of animals and in many cases flora - they sit on it for years waiting for some rain then run cows or sheep and eat it to oblivion -
in the meantime - the actual owners - us -- have to search them out - and tell them that we are going on their pastoral leases
if it's so precious as you say and the 'tenants' as you describe them have such 'rights' as you suggest -
why then, do pastoral lease holders not have to inform mining companies when they will be on the exploration/prospecting/mining leases?
it's utter BS - and, it is most definitely NOT freedom -
if they want unfettered access to the land - then, buy it --------- give us, the owners, the money -------- make it torrens title
You do understand that your arguments actually restrict the movement of Australians to pretty well all of Australia do you not???????
restricting movement is a pretty well class one act in the lack of freedom stakes.
Fair dinkum you'd say white was black i'm sure. People have never been able to wander wherever they please, and I don't just mean in Oz, I mean everywhere. You mention Nordic countries, do we require a visa to set foot on their ground?
To say we need no rules as to where we can go is nonsense, the place would be out of control. Lets take a midday wander into Parliament at question time and sit beside Scomo, after all it's our parliament house isn't it? What about we all descend on Pine Gap for a barbie and a good wander around the joint, it's our land?
It's incredibly naive to think that could /should possibly happen. Mate I tell you what I'll do, if you find it so difficult to find somewhere to go for a casual stroll through the bush due to all these restrictions of movements by our horrible govt then here's a link a few of our top national parks which are open to the populous,
https://www.ytravelblog.com/national-parks-australia/
I reckon it would take about 3 lifetimes to thoroughly explore all that Oz has to offer with our list of parks, and far better than being a humbug at the gate of our pastoralists who, in spite of your claim they only look after themselves, do actually contribute greatly to australias wealth in the form of exports and locally consumed products.
