Absolutely baron1 Debono, that question could easily come back to bite you if you really think about it. I assume you would say God made matter. Thats why there have been so many gods, an easy answer for any hard questions. God did it! But where did God come from? Remote tribes in PNG many years ago thought god came from the sky and made an excellent grass copy of a bi-plane :-) Regarding intelligence, I think most people are intelligent in some ways and dumb in other ways. My boss years ago had a highly "educated" son, he used to call him an educated fool. Thick as 2 bricks but looked great on paper. Better not start on the education system, you won't stop me. zip cheers Rod