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    When I talk about copper and zinc forcasts I should mention we are talking about 2012. This is very realistic in the minds of manny investment bankers. New mine budgets will be based on prices in excess of four years.
    http://cruonline.crugroup.com/BasePreciousMetals/MarketForecasts/CopperLongTermOutlook/tabid/247/Default.aspx
 
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