Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
The Drudge report times out.
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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Sharenot so stupid now Up 10% Gobs baby, when's the big sell off due? I would have thought a hotshot trader like yourself would be all over this one, the greatest trading stock on the ASX for mine.
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Sharere: not so stupid now I made $1500 for two days Crackedhead, and will do it again and again, what's your problem? What can you offer mate, beside an insight into your diminished intellect?
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Sharere: not so stupid now Yeah, right peanut, aren't you the mega trader? Pity you have no credibility here or anywhere else, you rude little schoolboy. Get a job and stop bugging people....
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Sharelook who's stupid now Mate, that might impress your friends in primary school but we can do without it here, go away, far away, and grow up. Just another multi-nicked dickhead aren't you?
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Sharere: not so stupid now**hey big ears**** You got me there big fella,
I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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ShareThere are infinite ways to lose money......infinite ways. Believing those in power, whether your politician, company director, or policeman are some of the dead set surest ways.
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Sharesandune, you come across as being so deluded by hate.
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ShareVery direct, and good post. It's only others that will feel the shame for the directors TSS.
A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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Sharerogerm, while you've deciphered the good and bad posters, have you also pigeon holed the ones that have fallen in love with the stock and reject any opinion other than the one they want to hear?
It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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ShareSo you can see both sides of the story matty.
I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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ShareAgree seuss.
I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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ShareI know. Maybe I didn't explain myself very well.
There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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ShareWe'd have loved to play with your mind GZ, but this one is just uniquely weird!
We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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ShareI am guessing that the ASX are giving them grief again, because on page 5 of the presentation, they obviously had the numbers prepared, that were going to be released in time for the AGM. (Obviously again is my guess)
I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Well, I am not as unhappy as you seem to be. I have been talking to a couple of brokers who have concerns about how stock pickers get sucked into indexes. They pointed out to me that both APP and APT formed part of the small Ords index up to June 2019. They pointed out that the top 10 constituents played a large part of the movements and that currently out layers like those mentioned plus Wisetech etc have an influence especially if the share price and hence the market cap grows fast until they are moved as APT was into the ASX100.
They pointed out to me that in any portfolio they would be concerned about one share becoming a very large percentage of the portfolio so often in a stock-picking environment you would sell a few off to reduce concentration whereas an ETF would just follow the index weightings.
We did not get to a solution but rather had a problem in that a small fund could miss out on an Afterpay and totally miss the index performance or could reduce the concentration and thus start to slip below the index.
I think their motivation is to persuade me to not invest in the LIC market at this end of town but rather have a broker. I don't like brokers - I think its too easy to place your money where they got the last presentation and I always feel there is a bit of unnecessary churn.
However, I am wondering if I should rather measure if my fund is making money for me and giving me a good dividend. well GC1 has made mistakes twice. Both have cost money and they are really back at IPO right now - the dividend has been good but they haven't had a good run.
The past 6 months looks okay but my view is clouded by the shocker of 2018 last quarter ( all our views probably are). I just want them to slowly grow the NTA and pay a good dividend. I can understand the issues surrounding some of these very high flying stocks - Remember BIG-Un ( Liquidated) and Get Swifts ($4 to 24c in 19 months) - well if you had them you would be horrified in the performance - GC1 had Axsess Today ( AXL) and that wiped out a lot. Had it been the flyer and kept climbing we would be applauding management. It was less than that and I know it irks the fund manager. However, I have had the same at times in my own picks - AJX (well after all the hype but I still get the bug) AHZ - I will no longer invest in Bio or medical research...
I was shocked to note how small the growth has been in NTA in a number of well known LIC's - Look at AX200 since May 2016 it's only grown 11.5%. I remember when GC1 had $1.22 NTA. So we went higher but we fell harder as well. I think that is the message for me and I hope I can convince the manager that steady Eddy is what most of us want. I don't expect LIC's to outperform the market. How can they? Their cost at this end of town is around 0.6% (Fee) and the running costs must be around 0.25%. So with compliance and the rest, they have to find an extra 1% each year just to remain with an Index. You have now seen that a few months ago any reference to comparing ARG to the index is no longer in their monthly reports. I would assume that by their very nature an APT would not be on their radar nor should it be - this stock is up from around $2.90 in 2017 to $27 today. I don't think I would want my LIC to be large into that yes maybe a small holding but really I hope they avoid it. Its $6.6billion market cap and much like a Tesla it has to travel for a very long time before it pays a dividend or makes money. Think that this company is now valued at 25% more than SOL. Sorry but there are too many of these highly promoted ideas and they climb into the sky - we are all hoping they are the next Tencent, Google or Amazon but they all took a lot of time to get to be where they are and had a huge amount of luck. Beyond Meat has a market cap of $14.1 Billion and Tesla has a market cap of $40 billion. Stock picking with those and when to sell is in my just too hard basket - this market feels like I should run to cash and if interest rates where anywhere north of 3% we would all be running. I just cannot earn less than inflation on my capital so we are all sitting waiting for normality but this isn't normal. So do I really want my money risked in APT? - actually no! That is not the place of a LIC that has a dividend-paying motive in my opinion. If its all growth maybe but really I have my doubts. There is so much rubbish being spoken out there. VISA can tap into Barclays Sub in Africa which already has linked 6 months to pay budget plan to its VISA presentation. They charge interest and its illogical to believe that lending corporations won't have to start paying for funding. APT really needs very low-interest rates how can they provide no-interest payments if the RBA rate was say 3%... The retail discount would not be enough in my opinion to service this.
So I am saying I want to invest in conservative models that look for a 4% dividend yield and growth in NTA of around 6% - 10% total return. I don't really want the high-risk high reward in my portfolio of LIC's
So I am not unhappy to be invested here as long as MG and his team do what they have done for a decade make good money but don't be a slave to the index and don't invest in high flyers unless there is a business case for the sustainability of that business. Personally, I don't think that it will be that easy in USA and I also don't see anyone paying to buy them out - are you going to pay US4 billion for something where the business model only works in a low-interest environment...
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ShareI find that post rather repugnant and cynical cusox.
Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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ShareShadow, that is bull dust, and you know it.
If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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Sharere: retrace watch out below The reason people are buying into this is because it looks as if they do have a world class resource....if that is the case this stock is very undervalued at current levels.
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ShareMaybe this sheds some light on it ............................
He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by diatribe
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piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by bigdump
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so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
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fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by trade4profit
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diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
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Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
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all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
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Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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ShareI get your drift joewolf.
The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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ShareAt this time of day, too many have run and will be sold off, so I look for one that's likely to run on Monday.
CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Sharere: it goes like this? Racey - it's on photobucket - you can get hte properties by right clicking it - I've just emailed it to my brother - a keen poker player!
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ShareWhat a fascinating thread reading back 3 months!
Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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