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17/12/19

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Originally posted by Glug ↑

"....Nothing was going to stop the democrats voting on party lines to impeach him. That was cast in stone when they referred the issue to the house judicial committee....."

Trump had the option to provide documents and allow testimony to counter the evidence presented prior to it going to the judiciary committee.

"....Why give your opponents any assistance when he knows it's going to a Republican controlled Senate for trial?..."

Garbage argument, Trump had no defence, so he offered no defence. Even the Republican Trumpies involved in the investigation couldn't come up with anything to counter the under oath testimonies.

Hanging out so that those that put Trump before country can shirk their responsibility to the Constitution and the people of the US is a pathetic game plan for someone who professes to be innocent.

Biden, always the fall back position when Clinton isn't available.

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Most importantly, Biden was pushing for action that overall U.S. foreign policy supported, as well as the international community.

When Biden had hisnow-famous showdown with Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko in 2015, he was delivering a message not only from the United States, but from the International Monetary Fund and the European Union. All three entities were focused on curtailing corruption in Ukraine, and all three were deeply suspicious that Poroshenko’s prosecutor was playing a familiar game of tamping down investigations as a form of political favoritism.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/dec/09/ask-politifact-does-video-show-joe-biden-confessin/

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Hearing on Ukrainian ReformsTwo Years After the Maidan Revolution and the Russian Invasion
March 15, 2016

Testimony by Ambassador (Ret.) John E. Herbst
Critics focused on the absence of any real changes in the Procurator General’s Office and in the judiciary and claimed that the president and prime minister were not interested in going after these major sources of corruption. Both institutions were known to facilitate corruption.

They pointed to the failure of the government—through the Procurator General—to indict any major figures from the Yanukovych administration for corruption. They complained,too,that Procurator General Viktor Shokin was a compromised figure who had served as Procurator General in the Yanukovych administration.By late fall of 2015, the EU and the United Statesjoined the chorus of those seeking Mr. Shokin’s removal as the start of an overall reform of the Procurator General’s Office. U.S. Vice PresidentJoe Biden spoke publicly about this before and during his December visit to Kyiv; but Mr. Shokin remained in place.

By late fall of 2015, the EU and the United Statesjoined the chorus of those seeking Mr. Shokin’s removal as the start of an overall reform of the Procurator General’s Office. U.S. Vice PresidentJoe Biden spoke publicly about this before and during his December visit to Kyiv; but Mr. Shokin remained in place.

U.S. Policy: Plus and Minus
Washington’s approach to reform and the Ukrainian economy is also mixed. On the plus side, the Obama administration understands well the nuances of Ukrainian reform. It recognizes that the government in Kyiv needs outside encouragement and, at times, tough love, to make the right reform choice.Mr. Biden,in particular,has devoted a great deal of time to promoting reform in Ukraine, and he has not been reluctant to tell Mr. Poroshenko and Mr. Yatsenyuk when they have shirked the hard choices that need to be made. This was evident in the conversations regarding Mr. Shokin and the Office of the Procurator General.

https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/031516_Herbst_Testimony.pdf

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You made your mind up. Good luck with the house vote and senate vote.
Good luck with the next election
Ya gonna need it
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