Open international borders for aussies, page-127

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    Lets crack this empasse lets say this k874 . Who knows it may even become really important to you at some stage in life or even some other person.

    You see the advice given to leave and return on the passport just taking Australia here . Is even when you may enter a country as a duel international they may not reconcile you as Australian .

    I mean the crisis part like wars ect we can see really easily but here is your point to consider and its raised here that you have bound yourself to a country with this passport .

    You dont have special privileges over any other citizen of the country . Under that passport if you are using it to enter or leave with even when traveling you dont have a defense if break the laws of one nation or another because you can choose the nation you want .

    Some see duels as just rent seekers in a big way . Not even us only its just the country we are in on the debate with rules we have being maybe best understood. You can like whats happening now try all influencing channels etc call us insular name even what ever you like .

    Just when we have decide how help you and if you are committed after in laws has some lets say twisted views like for debate . But ever citizen is bound to the Constitution of a country of this country even other countries .

    Like its here in this debate of the jury you may face under law . You want help from the guvnuts well they hold duty to one country laws in their Constitution . If your intent ever becomes under question as being proving innocence or not how are you going to prove it ?

    Remember im trying to help you as an Australian citizen in a Democratic country if i had accept jury duty which also you will have to under the rights of the country just like voting .

    I would be called to judge a peer on intent of their decisions . Remember im not real smart when called to do this so this is the people you be proving intent to . Its really simple when you use the passport of the nation to reconcile where who and what intent needs be defended or not with a yes or no answer .

    Ive put up the advice that some countries may not reconcile you as Australian even holding that nations passport if you enter under a different one . Now im taking this as its law that decides this to make it simple with the complexities .

    Ie as put up your call on a nations help you get that help come home for a few days after receiving help be that whatever but for current situation as pointed out then want leave and the country has laws against this ?

    Dont worry about debating the rights and wrongs of it because if the country chose to denies you the right to leave and you knowingly want change your decision after coming you would have enter under a different passport to show you are not doing it just so you can visa jump as pointed out is the very hard thing you are having face we as a nation would not want you in that situation again in these times !

    You can point out why this is not so for debate thats for sure its just when it really come to a crunch on making the decision its so simple you are agreeing to which nations laws for assistance or even for defense of its laws democratically you have chosen.

    Call it a weight of opinion that controls a democratic country as is your rights to do and even as you are pointing out you are trying do to gain help now .

    If you were choosing to come here just so you could call on any countries laws after arriving the intent would be you are not coming to obey they rule of law of the nation in the first place ?

    Im trying help and also explain even how i would be called upon to make a decision if you fell foul of the law here where the opinion would lay . Even you would/could be called upon be the decision maker for someone else as an equal peer .

    When accepting the countries rules of laws .

    Myself i would be filthy if we helped you and you didnt stay while this crisis is in motion after arriving . We both need you and dont if you get my drift .

    No use debating if your not going exercise your rights democratically when you arrive in the nation . As a compulsory nation we need your vote for this . Not for just using everything without being inclusive when it comes to making your decisions as convenience .

    Call it what you like if you think we are insular what ever you like if you dont want be here because you disagree have the one vote one value offered get here and exercise it with the rest of us as you want to when calling for us to help you .

    Jump on the first jury you get offered dont try dodge it as another may need you also and need your view .

    You never know you just may walk out and go ive served the nation im know more deserving than another and ive exercised my rights in the nation under the rule of law .
 
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