they are the result of power mad, despotic "leaders", who if religion didn't exist, would still have found an excuse or another form of ideology for what they did - think Mao, Stalin, Hitler, the Soviet invasions of Eastern Europe post Stalin - religion wasn't involved in the horrors they perpetrated
the above from ETL & on the surface seems a reasonable 'off the cuff' sumation.
One must look at the cause of all these effects(murder & mayhem for the most part)
It is only the people who desire POWER who put out there that WE MUST CONTROl - or else there is no perceived POWER.
Those who desire PEACE do not need/desire POWER.
Everything manifests from Ideology, so it follows religion is just another 'think tank' as are 'all things' in this dual universe.
When one gives up 'all thought' & stills the mind & for those who have done the 'hard yards' & can still the mind at will then they have expanded consciousness - helped evolution -
ADOLPH HITLER: (b. Adolph Schicklgruber, 1889; d. 1945.) It can be said without fear of contradiction that this man singlehandedly came pretty close to turning the world upside down for a few years. But what high test philosophy fueled Hitler’s cerebral engine? In short, what fundamental belief did Hitler have about his own and all of mankind’s origins?
Dr. Jerry Bergman, a college professor somewhere in Ohio the last I heard, put together information from various authorities showing important connections between Hitler’s Nazism and Darwin’s Evolutionism. A few quotations will make the accepted but rarely discussed point that Hitler’s Nazism was a calculated and deliberate plan to apply evolutionary “science” to government policy. Indeed, Darwinism was the heartbeat of Nazism as Hitler conceived it. Note Bergman’s findings:
“Adolph Hitler’s mind was captivated by evolutionary teaching--probably since he was a boy.”
“One of the central planks in Nazi theory and doctrine was...evolutionary theory...”, we read in another place.
The whole Hitlerian idea of the “master race” of “supermen” was based on the Darwinian principle of “survival of the fittest” which Hitler proposed to speed up by various policies. Jews and Blacks were singled out as retards on the evolutionary scale who must not be allowed to contaminate the more evolved, i.e., the more advanced “aryan master race”. (This was the ultimate effrontery, the unpardonable sin, as far as the Talmudic Jews were concerned. How dare he appropriate THEIR position on the subject of superiority and inferiority! That blankety-blank paperhanger--and the whole German people--will find out who is superior and who isn’t! They are going to pay and pay, and then pay some more for this effrontery!)
Dr. Bergman’s conclusion: “The evidence is very clear that Darwinian ideas had a tremendous impact on German thought and practice.... In fact, Darwinian ideas had a tremendous influence on causing WWII, the loss of 40 million lives, and the waste of about 6 trillion 1945 dollars. Firmly convinced that evolution was true, Hitler saw himself as the modern savior of mankind.... By breeding a superior race, the world would look upon him as the man who pulled humanity up to a higher level of evolution.”
Vot more can ve zay? The interminable vengeance exacted on the Germans by the Jews in particular is partly due to their Holocaust experience, which was bad to be sure, but admitted by many Jews themselves to be highly exaggerated. (The Zionists officially declared economic war on Hitler in 1933, just six weeks after he was elected Chancellor [a little publicized fact somehow].... He [thru Himmler chiefly] got increasingly rough with them after that, no doubt about it. Maybe a million died in the camps of all causes, and another million during the invasion of the Soviet Union.) The Holocaust Industry, as many are calling it (including those reading Finklestein's hot new book by that title) has served the Zionists in particular wonderfully well, not only as an immense source of revenue, but also as an unfailing psychological club to beat off any post-war inclinations anywhere to expose their multi-faceted dark side. This ceaseless retribution and hair-trigger labeling of “anti-Semite” and “Nazi” has gotten the Zionists a lot of mileage in the post-war world.
Still, the Holocaust is only the most visible and effective tool used to establish once and for all who is superior and who is inferior. Bombing Hitler and Nazism off the map didn’t touch the root of evolutionism! Indeed, pruning the Nazi limb off the evolution tree just made the other branches (Communism, Socialism, Humanism) grow stronger and bear more fruit of an equally, if not more poisonous variety than Hitlerism! All four of these big “isms” of the 20th century (Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Humanism) are rooted and grounded in Darwinian and neo-Darwinian evolutionism. I find that a rather interesting fact, don’t you? Hitler was totally persuaded that evolutionism was a scientific fact. Ernst Haeckel’s recapitulation nonsense aided the Darwinian conquest of the Life Sciences in Germany on the heels of Darwin's book (HERE). Hitler was also deeply convinced by the theories of Eugenicist Francis Galton (Darwin’s cousin) and others about improving the quality of the human race by careful selection of parents in the breeding process. Nordic stock was preferred for achieving the best evolutionary results. Hitler concluded that this was the best way to thin out the weak and propagate the strong. As far as can be determined Hitler retained a belief in God...as did Galton. He just added Darwin in the mix and adopted one of the different shades of belief open to the theistic evolutionist. This seems to be a pattern for deep dyed evolutionists who lean toward Fascism, i.e., they do not officially promote atheism, they are ardent nationalists, and, to a degree, they favor a substantial element of capitalism in the economy.
Deep dyed evolutionists who embrace Communism and Socialism and Humanism, on the other hand, tend to officially promote atheism, seek to get rid of nationalism and install globalism, and ostensibly denounce capitalism while using it for their own ends in an otherwise government run economy. The “fall” of Soviet Communism, by-the-way, effected nothing as far as the evolutionary underpinning of these non-Fascist isms is concerned. Everybody just became Socialist-Humanists, which sounds a lot better, and the march away from nationalism toward globalism has now gone to afterburners. Globalism is the “ism” of the day and--being evolutionist to the core--it bloody well means to get rid of that pesky competition from Biblical Creationism and proceed quickly to the main order of business, i.e., finishing off Jesus and the New Testament foundation for Christianity.
So, while all the big talk from world leaders goes on about politics, economics, environment, nuclear proliferation, etc., the real culprit is what has been implanted in man’s mind about his origin and purpose in the world. And this offender (evolutionism cleverly disguised as “science”) remains as effectively hidden as a rabbit in a brush pile. False science, and those who knowingly use it, has been Satan’s major weapon in the world--at least since the Copernican fiction paved the way for the Darwinian fiction--and is no more suspected of being behind all this misery than is Donald Duck.
Hidden and unsuspected or not, it is absolutely clear that evolutionism is that mind warping concept that has been (and now is!) a key ingredient in modern history’s greatest blood baths, its interminable racial turmoil, and the most terrible economic waste in the history of the world. Hitler--being totally persuaded that evolutionism was a scientific fact--simply turned out to be one of--if not the--most impassioned promoters of that theory about man’s origins in the 20th century. As with hundreds of millions of others, Hitler perceived that here was a scientific fact which basically demanded that all previous concepts about mankind be thrown out the window. Being the white supremacist concept that Darwinism is, Hitler made this idea his guiding principle. With “scientific truth” on his side, he set about to further the “Master Race” concept. The rest is history.
But there were other equally persuaded and zealous devotees of Darwinism in Hitler’s time. These also were men who have had a powerful influence on modern history, an influence heavily weighted on the destructive side of the balance. These men (Lenin, Stalin, Mao Tse-tung, Marx) were globalists, rather than nationalists, and they openly mocked God and set about to rid the world of His influence on mankind....
NIKOLAI LENIN: (b. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov,1870; d. 1924.) Lenin, the first murderous communist dictator of the USSR said: “Darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species bear no relation to one another, except by chance, and that they were created by God , and hence immutable.” (The heart of this statement is: “Darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species..were created by God....”)
Lenin was “...a confirmed atheist, dedicated to the destruction of...all religious worship...he regarded Christ with undisguised hatred.”
On his desk Lenin had a statue displayed in a “prominent position for all to see...its vivid presence dominated the room.” (What kind of statue?)
It was a “...bronze statue of an ape gazing at an oversized human skull.” This symbolized the evolutionary core of Lenin’s atheism. It further symbolized the core of Marx’s Communism which Lenin set about imposing on Russia and much of the rest of the world. When Lenin died in 1924, control of the Soviet Union passed to Joseph Stalin.
Let’s glance at the role evolutionism played in Stalin’s mind (a mind, all agree, which conceived and carried out the calculated murder of at least ten--and more likely--twenty to thirty million people, mostly Christians):
JOSEPH V. STALIN: (b. IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH DZHUGASHVILI, b.1879; d. 1953; Following Lenin, Stalin ruled the Soviet Union with an iron fist for thirty years. From Landmarks in the Life of Stalin we read:
“At a very early age, while still a pupil in the ecclesiastical school, Comrade Stalin developed a critical mind and revolutionary sentiments. He began to read Darwin and became an atheist.”
G. Gludjidze, a boyhood friend of Stalin’s relates: “I began to speak of God. Joseph heard me out, and after a moment’s silence said: ‘You know, they are fooling us, there is no God....’”
Gludjidze reported: “I was astonished at these words. I had never heard anything like it before. How can you say such things, Soso?” he asked Stalin, who replied:
“I will lend you a book to read: it will show you that the world and all living things are quite different from what you imagine, and all this talk about God is sheer nonsense.”
“What book is that?” his friend inquired.
“Darwin. You must read it,’ Joseph impressed on me.”
A few pages later, another person who was in school with Stalin, said of what they were taught:
“...in order to disabuse [i.e., free from deception or error] the minds of our seminary students of the myth that the world was created in six days, we had to acquaint ourselves with the geological origin and age of the earth, and be able to prove them in argument; we had to familiarize ourselves with Darwin’s teachings.”
So, in plain words, the church school Joseph Stalin attended labored to get the Bible’s explanation for origins out of kid’s heads and fill those same heads with the evolutionary explanation for origins. And that was church school well over a hundred years ago! Education--public, private, church, TV, whatever--is THE tool for getting the evolution explanation for the origin of man and all else into peoples heads.
A quick note on how Mao Tse-tung made indoctrination into evolutionism his very first priority after the Communist victory in China in late 1949 is of interest, I think. See if you agree:
MAO TSE TUNG: (b. 1893; d. 1976) In a graduate school paper about the way the communists dealt with the 85% illiteracy problem in China, I found two things that stuck with me:
1) Mao’s method was quite resourceful given what he had to work with. He called it “Each One Teach One”. It was basically the idea that every literate person would teach an illiterate person and, as soon as the pupil learned enough to read and write he would then teach what he had learned to another illiterate person. Within a few short years the 85% figure was totally reversed.... It was quite an accomplishment given all the obstacles.
2) Being a Marxist and an atheist and a firm believer in evolutionism himself, Mao mandated that the reading material used in this early day “Great Leap Forward” in literacy would be the writings of Charles Darwin and other materials supportive of the evolution paradigm. Understanding modern China of necessity includes an understanding of the transference of this state mandated indoctrination into evolution-based atheism from one generation to another for more than a half century. The fact that Mao’s regime was responsible for the out-and-out murder of somewhere between 30 and 60 million people...many of them Christian missionaries and their flocks...does not suggest that all evolutionists are potential mass murderers, of course. However, it does strongly suggest that a passionate belief that man is just another evolved animal is a conviction that is fully capable of creating a mind-set which cheapens life and excuses whatever behavior and policies individuals may pursue, no matter how hurtful and even deadly that behavior and those policies may be to millions of other people. Indeed, one abiding result of this passionate belief in the evolutionary origins scenario--a result more evident in the lives of the Lenin, Stalin, and Mao than in Hitler--is an utter disdain--often escalating to outright hatred--of Christians in particular. One can see the source of this malevolence in a few facts about modern communism’s founder:......
All that crap because THEY 'thought'
Humans must give up 'self' to 'NON SELF' & what follows is close enuff to what is bandied around as 'nirvana' - but of course there is always more...............