Another shout of praise goes up to Jehovah!, page-1172

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    Mr G, YOU ignore the vital point, the two things in discussion, 1:1 Word and God is what brought about the events in 1:3.

    Keeping the word subject in mind, nothing was made without, the same, this, it = word of God, spoken and Jesus is NOT the one saying, and God said.
    If you say Jesus is the Word, you have no option but to say, imply, and Jesus said, and Jesus said, John 1:3 forces this.

    The Word includes, thought, reason etc as in, a Jesus to be in which God's salvation plan would come through, Hence the Name Jesus.
    In the Word, meaning of, after the plan for a Jesus, was the Gens creation.
    To boot, the word as in many of the words of God = word of Life, THAT which was with the Father 1 John 1:1-2 -> Titus 1;2 - In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; (Time eternal)
    2 Tim 1:9 - Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, (time eternal).
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    Wotsup ,God was not made flesh..
    God came into the flesh, the Temple.

    God is not ''the only begotten of the Father,''.... Jesus is . That is just a clear straight forward teaching.

    OH dear Mr G, it would appear, you fell head first into the same hole Tonio fell into???????????????

    1:14 and the Word flesh became and Tabernacled in (on, among) us, and we
    beheld the Glory of Him
    (same, this it), a Glory as only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    The only begotten here is NOT referencing Jesus, BUT the Glory (the word) of God which he gave Jesus who then gave to them.
    Your own version of 1:14, says exactly the same.
    In other words, it could only have been, begotten off, from God.

    Example -> Matt 16:17 - And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
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    Ez 37:26-27 - Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
    My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

    1:14 and the Word flesh became and Tabernacled in (on, among) us, and we beheld the Glory of Him (same, this it), a Glory a Glory as only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    John 17:22 - And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

    So, the word not only produced the Flesh, resulted in it, the Word (of life) also came in the flesh, the Temple, Tabernacle.
    Ex 40:34 - Then a cloud covered the tent of the congregation, and the glory of Yahweh filled the tabernacle.

    John 14:10 - Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me,he doeth the works.

    For the Word (God) to come into the Tabernacle, the Word had to produce one first.
    Yes the meaning of the Word, centers around Jesus, but it also represents the plan of God, re creation and the word of God, word of life, which Jesus became the carrier of and now exalted carries that name, "the Word of God" as he did the name Jesus.
    The name is to show and represent, that role.
    Jesus had it in him, without measure.
    Fullness of God -> the Word, dwelt in him. (......and God was the Word).

    Hence, he then became the Express image, when he spoke, expressed out the word.

 
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