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24/02/21

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Originally posted by wotsup ↑

Ok, now's the time for you to shine The Light,......I sent a post to Mr G, on this same thread.

You say Jesus is the Word in 1:1, so stand up and be counted and address the area I covered, re 1:1-3, creation as if Jesus is the Word, you have to show Gen as being, and Jesus said and Jesus said.

In other words, the through Jesus meaning, in reference to creation has to be correctly understood and the Bible from what I'm seeing, gives NO options in this regard.

The Word in John 1:1, is in effect much about Jesus, the one to be, about creation as in Gen and the word as in the word of God, life eternal.

Jesus name meaning = God (Almighty God and Father that is) is salvation or God saves,................and that plan was to be through the future Jesus.

Christ = Anointed one, hence he got it without measure.

Light, God is Light and Father of it and his word is Light, Jesus got his word without measure, hence became A Light into the world, only after Baptism.

Now exalted, via inheritance, his name is called The Word of God. = NAME has to come form somewhere -> and God was The Word.
Name only, is called that,.........why, Just like the name Jesus depicts his role that God had for him, likewise the Word of God, as he was given it, the word of life without measure, the carrier of it.
Yes, much of this word of life, THAT which was with the Father 1 John 1:1-2, centers around Jesus.
That word of life, plan, is what came down, forth, out from God, just as Jesus tells us.

If I give you my word, NO WAY do you become my word, likewise, Jesus does not and did not become the Word of the Word of God.
To suggest other wise is like saying, you become a apple if I gave to one =
The word of God, centers around him, about him, he is the product of.
Like it or not, he came about, pretty much as per the creation events, out of the mind and plans of God, known as Logos.
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What was assigned to “God” of the OT, with Jesus in the NT all moved onto him.

Rubbish and unsupported, in the context you are suggesting.

All things, all power etc was placed in his hands, and the likes of what he says, I can do nothing of myself (John 14:10, Acts 22:22).
1 Cor 15:28 - And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

If he was the creator, or master worker etc, there would be nothing to place in his hands, already in them etc.

He was raised as per Deu 18:18 over many years and taught the word = the word of God.
Making him a Light, life within himself via The Word, word of God, when he then spoke, he was the express image, giving him the appearance, like God, fullness of God, dwelt in him.
Expressing out The Word, Almighty God and Father as in, if you have seen (heard) me, you have seen (heard) the Father.
Father being and as defined via Jesus, the Only True God.

THINK, fullness of God in him = the Word.
What was Jesus continuously doing, expressing out the Father.

And you question why, I get hung up on this John matter = , you have the Angel of Light, pretty much smack in the middle of the Bible and as large as life, to some it would seem?????????????????????

Yep, they will see and hear and not able to understand, unfolding right before our very eyes.

God, The Word, came into the Temple and goodness me, God did Not turn into this Temple. John 14:10.
The plan, flesh became, Eph 3:9.
OT verse, Yahweh said the likes of, I will place a Tabernacle among the people.

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Ok, now's the time for you to shine The Light,......I sent a post to Mr G, on this same thread.

I actually did start it, then lack of interest took hold and I just deleted everything and went and mowed the lawn

You say Jesus is the Word in 1:1, so stand up and be counted and address the area I covered, re 1:1-3, creation as if Jesus is the Word, you have to show Gen as being, and Jesus said and Jesus said.

Wow, and oh my God wotsup, do you honestly think posting tit for tat posts will establish reality, this is your problem, you assume the more post and bible verse you post will elevate your position, you have to first show us your qualification first in history and then theology, otherwise it’s only an opinion

What you fail to understand is the info that I gave you is from someone who is in a better position the you or me as they have given us the material we have to correspond about, when you assume you know better, well then, it’s your problem.
And these will tell you that the “Word” in 1:1 is Jesus., not just me, but along with 99% of present and descendants of Christianity.

Now my favourite show is about to start I’m off, that should demonstrate to you how much interest I have in Bible bashing, or what goes on HC
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