again nro your lack of research shows
Standard intro line absent any point showing so or even an answer to the questions listed. What is it that causes you to so dramatically avoid these questions gbb? questions?
ggb " the wall is actually a metamorphized granite"
Oh dear this isnt good to hear.
So when naturally fractured it will make an aquifer! Hence the movement of water into the pit. In which case the water is coming from the sea and probably why absent your answer to that specific question. Suggests there too could be a problem.
First
1)How would EPM know if its fractured? They cant observe the wall submerged
2) I can only assume its fractured given the amount of water has stopped at sea level. Thats the first indication Id look for for fracturing If It was run off youd expect the level to be seasonally variant. But instead these photos suggest its level with the sea. Water will only diffuse up to an equal pressure differential. Which is found when the levels match. This is why I was worried when you said there was a tunnel allowing the top section of water to flow in and out. Thats potentially just taking pressure off the wall.
This is highly concerning. As the only evidence we have is this and its potentially indicative of concern. The only way to test is to pump out a portion and test the flood rate. If the level stops at sea level you know where the water is coming from surely.
3) I wont be surprised if its not fractured due to the excessive seismic activity in Greenland.
Many holders here may not know of the frequency of earthquakes in Greenland. They are very common and felt around the earth (read below).
The number of glacial earthquakes in Greenland shows a peak every year in July, August and September....more events were detected every year since 2002, and twice as many events were recorded in 2005 as there were in any other year....Seismic waves are also generated by the Whillans Ice Stream, a large, fast-moving river of ice pouring from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet into the Ross Ice Shelf. Two bursts of seismic waves are released every day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacial_earthquake
Further to this youll also have a more severe form of seismic activity.
"icebergs break off at the end of tidal glaciers, they tumble in the water and jam the glaciers themselves backwards. The result is a seismic event detectable across the Earth.[Scientists finally have an explanation for why huge lakes atop Greenland are vanishing]“These are all around magnitude 4.6 to 5.2, they’re all pretty close to magnitude 5,” scientists are now measuring seven times as many of these glacial earthquakes coming from Greenland — the rate has shot up as the ice sheet has begun to lose more mass from the calving of icebergs at the front end of glaciers.
So I have more questions now as well as the last ones you avoided.
1) How do we test the fractional factor when the problem is submerged? Besides water level comparison on both sides which indicate a problem may exist.
2) Why wouldnt you kept it pumped and clear for sale so people can see the wall isnt fractured and functioning fine?
3) Was the water allowed to be there so to support the wall and stop a collapse either slowly occurring or as a safety measure to support the wall so it didnt occur.
4) Has additional damage has been undertaken while submerged. We could even have a collapsed portion right now and no one would know because its too deep to observe. Seismic activity could have done this and no one would ever know.
5) Repairing fractional granite would be very very hard to do. In fact I wouldnt be surprised if it was impossible. Id assume its like dropping a marble top and breaking it up and trying to repair it while it was withholding water.
6) Seismic waves are not going to help the wall when the pit is pumped out. Such waves could add pressure against the wall or sudden overflow while operating.
7) cutting out or drilling work into the quartz may risk further integrity issues undermining the walls foundations. I wonder if this is why the previous mine ceased as given it was, as you advised, "the most profitable mine at the time" suggests theyd want to run it as hard as they could down to as far as they could go. I certainly would. War over or not theres quartz even deeper and they left it untouched. If all infrastructure is there why not continue and get everything you can? Because theres other concerns to consider such as this maybe.
.the so called wall stood for over 150 years keeping the ocean out
Well I could be wrong but instead I suspect again you maybe. The wall stood for 150 years with a natural undisplaced granite behind it. Of course the wall would stand. How would it collapse into an area thats filled. Its impoosible right? . But now the wall has been left standing in a reasonably thin strip (in my opinion as a dam wall) with its reinforcing backing now cut away. It may have stood during the mines operation but theres no guarantees on its condition now and considering the water presence reaches sea level it may indicate a big issue the water would be getting in from the sea.
and the pit was last empty in 1991.
WHAT???
Are you saying the pit shut down in 1987 and it filled up THAT FAST?
Then it was drained and its been submerged since for 30 YEARS.
With the amount of seismic activity Greenland is subjected to every week. Either in wave or ground. That wall could have recieved all manner of damage in 30 YEARS beyond the apparent few years it took to fill up. Is this a concern for others. This is an epensive mine with worth apparently built in to quartz deep down alongside this.
gbb from what you have just stated and all the questions avoided its becoming more obvious there could quite easily be a very big problem with that wall and no one would even be aware of it yet.
I personally think to be safe here. The buyer should be able to inspect the wall to ensure it is structurally acceptable for a mining operation. Surely it can be dredged and engineer inspections be made of the submerged sections and tunnels just to ensure everything remains as assumed. Even access tunnels could well be collapsed. The entire area could be severely damaged from seismic activity.
I hope you can arrange for its full inspection. For the buyer safe is better than sorry.
Otherwise EPM could drain it to find what issues exist and find it unacceptable to mine. Then its too late the money is gone and all they would have is the tenement. Which in my opinion isnt that valuable compared to whats being asked as theres so many available tenements around Greenland at very good prices and excellent potential.
All in my opinion again. But I feel personally its best to ensure these risks do not exist if venturing into an operation where you can not inspect it. Inspection after dredging would be best then taking a gamble on what could have happened in 30 years. Simply so to ensure the most important structure protecting the mine performs. In order to access the resource being bought.
I find the fact you arent answering to the water treatment required worrisome too. Greenland is very focussed on these things as you know and will probably need to be comprehensively looked at as all other mining companies have had to do as far as I am aware. Therefore an answer as to water quality required and environmental detriment of treated water (as it may not catch all pollutants) would surely need to be undertaken.
these arent hard to arrange given the sale. Can you do this you think gbb. Its better to be safe then sorry.
so instead of sitting there throwing sh-- why don't you go and see if you can tidy up the ggg mess surely their shareholders would appreciate that.
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