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Mr Friend of Chump, I watch these forums every day to try and learn the good and bad about my investments. I dont post alot for various reasons only when i think i could add somthing of interest or value. If i hated a stock as much as you do i would sell what i have in them and go some where else. I am sure you have lots of reasons for your grievences of which i really dont care. The only time i get involved if it impacts on my shares and then i try to break down the good, bad , hype etc. This is not intended to start an argument as i wont get involved though i think you need to go back over your posts.