What we have to keep in mind is that Australia has about 450 deaths per day anyway (before the rollout). So if a large proportion of the population is getting vaxed, it's reasonable to expect some will die immediately afterwards. Whether they're vaccine-related deaths or not is something we have to entrust to others. TGA are saying 9 are definitely related to AZ, which is no one is gettig that vax any more. The other deaths... well, you can interpret that how you want I suppose. I don't think we have any way of really knowing.