Short Squeeze, page-139

I'm guessing it's large holders like TOP who are likely lending their MSB shares out. I contacted Thorney and got onto their CFO who was charming until I put the point to him.

Suddenly the atmosphere became very frosty and he hid behind 'commercial in confidence' right to secrecy, refusing to deny or confirm.

My point is if they were truly loyal to SI as the CEOs are meant to be such mates, why wouldn't TOP deny?

A vote of confidence in the stock so to speak.

Care factor zero.

IMO they don't have any reason to care about the SP in the near term. Why? Their focus is not on the best interests of MSB's SP.
Their focus is getting returns for their own shareholders. They haven't sold their MSB shares though so they must at least believe in MSB LT.

It's my understanding but could be wrong...Funds lend their shares to make a lazy 17% or so on investment while they are waiting for the company to turn around and become 'commercially sustainable' in the words of a notable downramper, who acknowledged that MSB could become a behemoth in the future.

Are small players being pressured out of their holdings? I think they could be.
Why wouldn't they lend shares out?

Brutal as it is, the shorters of MSB can kick it around like a plaything and hammer it in chat rooms. That's a short ladder attack. Google it.

I don't think we are within a bull's roar of being able to influence this by appealing to brokers. We aren't big clients we're minnows. What influence do we have our moves are tiny compared to the big moves? We can't tell them what to do with any shares but our own.

All IMO and I could be mistaken, it's probably the big players who are shorting, and they've already done that damage. Again I'm only guessing after years of watching the humbug in here and disclosures made when they thought we're such muppets.

I'm not a sophisticated investor. Far from it. I just accumulated a bit of understanding of the patterns in chat over the years and started to piece together casual bragging done over time, that sort of thing. I smell rats. Sure I do.

We can send hate letters to Thorney or request letters to our brokers but the fact is it's just pissing in the wind. IMO.

The market is crushing for small players and perhaps you need to have "platinum hands" to not let go of your shares when they're being smashed.
Few have that resolve which is why retail investors get churned as they lose faith.

The pattern is apparently the churn from retail investors to the high holders. It doesn't tend to go the other way.

Stocks like the GME in the US in chat rooms like Reddit are worth a close look for 'short ladder attacks'.
Arguably, the holders could have applied a short squeeze back.

Holders could potentially mess with shorters but they need to have a significant number of players.

More importantly, it's problematic if they act together for legal reasons, because it's in danger of being market manipulation.

That is illegal. This is the sort of thing that one of the more prolific posters, a YouTube called Roaring Kitty, who got hauled before Congress to answer questions about.

But they could't get him for anything. He wasn't telling people what to do, and he had researched the stock and was sharing his research. Thoroughly.

He was just telling people what HE was doing, not telling others what TO DO.
Big difference.

Discussion is in the open and on the record. It's very important how you intend to act and how you phrase things in case you get misunderstood as being a shareholder activist or trying to influence the market.

I will put this another way: Do you think collusion may exist at the big end of town that's going unregulated? I think it's possible.

So if you're a soul whose intentions are gooood, then don't be misunderstood.

I would not encourage anyone to collude to influence the market.

There would be posts on Reddit: :"I like the stock" and "I'm only an ape" meaning they're not part of any organised thing, they have no deep or serious understanding of the market. And seriously, compared to the big players we ARE apes.

At the very least I found the GME action instructive and hilarious. That story is still unfolding. Worth researching especially on YouTube and Reddit. Although the latter has been edited and the most entertaining posts consigned to oblivion. I would laugh myself sick at the in-jokes while this was going on. Hilarious. People are well over the game of being churned.

All reasonable speculation and IMO.

I'm not telling anyone what to do except DYOR and research the stock.

I'm holding with diamond hands myself.
I lIke the stock.
Compared with the big players, I'm an ape.