no wonder I am a sceptic and denier... how long has the Kyoto deal been around, is it over 10 years....and why the sudden requirement to sign up at Copenhagan, right now, today......such urgency, hysterical shrilling by all parties.... none of these 192 countries, have done anything substantial, or even minor changes, to reduce emissions....its all been 'all talk and no action' policy...
hmmmm...makes me wonder...what is really going on, behind the scenes....
yes its the money....its not so much about paying the developing countries and ripping off taxpayers....for over 500 billion dollars every year.... its much bigger than that....its the trillion dollars windfalls they are after....it is not limited to taxpayers,,,they are after everyone.....
back to Goldman Sachs, and their mafia, cohorts....
its the derivatives and investments they are interested in, and the billions in govt money that is expected to be flow into all those schemes, and 'pigs might fly' ideas, yet to be dreamed up.......none of which will reduce climate change, or protect the environment..... we already have the evidence of the GW derivatives scammers, ripping of the VAT in Europe....but not to be deterred, they have taken investors funds,(see notes below in the billions of dollars) and cannot wait any longer to start marketing their schemes....but they need to know the out come of Copenhagan, to truly know how, the best way to rip off the investors.....(albiet that the US congress will not pass Obama's plans anyway) And who has been lobbying our pm?? the rush , the urgency to pass the ETS....its the same global mafia.....behind it all, on a world wide agenda....
here is a hint,,,,extract....(last 3 para's are important.. but I would insert trillions, instead of billions into the article...as closer to the truth...)
A final decision on market-based mechanisms to finance a "climate fund" now looks likely to be put off for future meetings, until after the President Barack Obama has tried to pass his carbon "cap-and-trade" bill in the US.
"A failure would mean we will lack the clarity to invest beyond 2012," said Laurent Corbier, chairman of the ICC for environment and vice-president of nuclear company Areva. "It will send a signal to businesses that we have wasted many months down the track."
At the global climate change talks, Anthony Hobley, head of climate change and carbon finance at law firm Norton Rose, said failure to fix targets and financing at Copenhagen could delay investment in the energy sector by up to two years.
"It would be the worst possible outcome for business," he said. "There is $17bn (10.4bn) in funds under management, waiting to see what the outcome of these talks will be."
Abyd Karmali, global head of carbon markets for Merrill Lynch, said it is still possible taxes on aviation and shipping fuel could be agreed since these sectors are "easy pickings" if countries realise that public money on the table from each country is not enough.
