All good points you make Drew, but there's such a thing as honesty. People buy into a stock on the basis of what they're told, and any info they've researched....look at a mob like Cityview, now you can blame those shareholders for their frustration and anger. Of course, all at m2m would like to like to see a few winners, but they way i look at life, you don't really win by crapping on to people, especially those loyal to you, or omitting what you know should be disclosed.