For better understanding, when I first arrived at HC I tried to get to discuss biblical philosophy and it's narrative as written rather than belief or disbelief and when you try, because they don't have much of a clue,
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they treat you like you are a dumb believer. You get the predictable responses.
I have also had many experiences with the spirit realm. By myself and with others.
I told them of an experience I had with another person when sitting in a car beside each other a hand firmly rested on each of our shoulders with nobody in between us.
I have had even more concrete experiences than that and with more people.
So are you seeking football followings from a matter of philosophy or faith?
Sit back and enjoy the light hearted banter
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