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Originally posted by Max5: ↑

Oh really ? You do have a very serious memory problem don't you !

Here's the relevant excerpt from your post under reference dated 8 July and below that excerpts from my reply.

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I clearly laid out a legal justification for self-determination.
Go on, look up UN charter for self-determination....Lol

https://hotcopper.com.au/posts/62451515/singleMe.

So now you toss up another UN Charter issue as it relates to 'self-determination' and declare it as legality, excuse and justification for Putin's activities in eastern Ukraine by saying 'I clearly laid out a legal justification for self-determination.' and join fellow international law experts in @rcman and apparently @happybear45 in waving about Chapter VII and Article 51 as it applies to 'self-defence' a slegality, excuse and justification. If you'd even done some basic research on the 'self determination' issue you would understand just what a vexed area it is and Putin's ongoing violation and interference in Ukraine's sovereign territory only adds another dimension to that complication and straight away indicates to me you probably haven't.Having said that both the UN Charter and customary international law prohibit states from interfering in the internal affairs of other states. This is currently cited as one reason why Russia’s recognition of DPR and LPR is illegal as both republics claim Ukrainian territory as their own.So what do you say to that for starters ?

Have you or your mates thought to contact the Secretary General of the UN or the dozens of member states yet to let them know of this folly and the diabolical error of their ways ?

https://hotcopper.com.au/posts/62456121/singleAllow me to have a big belly based guffaw.

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You didn't read the previous one, did you?

Go on, go back one further and watch the video of what the President of Ukraine said, at the time. That post (the one your reference) was in relation to the previous one which I outlined clearly the conditions where a group of people can seek "Self Determination" under the UN Charter. Now, make sure you listen carefully to what Poroshenko said about people in the Donbass region and how they will be treated by his Gov. And read the rest of the post.

Finally, have a look at the Minsk agreement signed by the Ukraine Gov - that in itself acknowledges the right of Self-Determination by the people of the Donbass region - ie autonomy. But since 2014, the Ukraine Gov (after signing it) refused to implement it.

Btw, an interesting note, the expiry of that agreement (Minsk Agreement) was 21st Feb 2022. And War began 24th Feb 2022. Can you see the link?

And since the expiry of that agreement, the regions have declared itself Independent States: Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics.

Still don't understand it?

Well, I suggest after you finish your driving shift, enrol in a remedial class.