Will matriarchy replace patriarchy?

Originally posted by DanMachine: ↑

>i think you are making a simplistic meaning of that study as it is reported
No more simplistic than your analysis of "the men that want to keep women in the bedroom or kitchen"

If I'm being honest, this is a complicated topic and I'm being a bit flippant as I already kind of see what your perspective is and I don't really think I will win you over.

Women want higher social status for themselves
But they still want their partners to have more social status than themselves.

And, I mean, there is a ton of literature on this, but there's not much point if you fundamentally disagree with the premise.

(not just actual studies, there are plenty, but mainstream thought/ opinion
https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-college-educated-women-cant-find-love
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/these-women-cant-find-enough-marriageable-men/
https://www.over40datingsite.co.uk/well-educated-women-struggling-find-love/

https://beanstalkmums.com.au/strong-women-dating-world/
https://www.insider.com/modern-dating-coach-explains-why-high-achieving-women-struggle-to-find-love-2019-3

Note : an uneducated man is not "marriageable". So, womens social status and engagement in general has changed, their expectations have not changed in relationships to match this change)

This is the archaic belief that needs to change. Why do women need a partner "above or within"?

>maybe what seems to be a desire to have economic security in childbearing years is relevant. maybe maybe
They have jobs.. money, education, etc so.. they have their own security? Why do they need a man to give them additional security?

Such a backwards last century belief! Come on ladies!

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Actually I don’t disagree with the basic premise that some women want to have status outside the home and still want men who are at least equal or greater status.

i used to think that was a silly thing to want but as I’ve aged I think that finding a man who can cope with a woman who has better education, and earns more money and can cope with that without needing to fund sone way of putting her down or asserting themselves is a little bit more rare than you might think. But I’d love to hear from men who are able to

heap my comment about men wanting to keep women blah blah was pretty simplistic but then I was not trying to pretend that comment was based on research. Slightly different from what you were doing.

the subject is complicated. What I object to most is the sweeping comments about womens place or role or abilities without allowance for individual abilities or skills. It is that boxing them in that is a problem. I actually have no where near as extreme views as you might think but I’m perfectly happy to be that way of talking to men who can’t allow women out of the box.

if you talked to enough emancipated women more and more of them are thinking exactly that they really don’t need a permanent attachment in the form of a man.