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21/12/22
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Originally posted by Scott th Ratbag:
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thats right ItI... she is a clinician and writing a submission on clinical issues from the clinical perspective. she does cite figures and much of her evidence is anecdotal from a) her own examination of people and b) from other medical practitioners who have reported their experiences."The OzSAGE document outlines the scope but not the scale of the problem because we do not know the scale of the problem. This is partly because of under-reporting and under- recognition." P.9 of her submission. and after details all the range of problems that have been collated in other countries health monitoring systems that might eventuate from an adverse event post vaccination. these include alopecia (hairloss) and Guilain Barre syndrome (nerve damage)... all possible sequelae. all this is in reference to long covid, which is what the commission is about, and how such symptoms from vaccine events can be neglected. Dr Phelps recommendations are the key point of this though. in brief, she's not bagging out vaccines as much as pointing to the difficulties face by people who have adverse events and how such symptoms can be mistaken for long covid. now your concern is that more people than are counted have had adverse events and Dr Phelps confirms your point. She wants better data collection, something made very difficult by the abandonment of regulated testing and the use of RATs, and follow up by the TGA of people having adverse events. P.15 as such she leaves your question unanswered. She cites no numbers. but with what data there is epidemiologists can calculate a reasonable approximation. personally I'd rather we had better monitoring to know the facts.
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The reverse also applies in that people may mistake Long Covid damage for vaccine damage. Doctors and layman can both get this wrong - particularly if relying on anecdotes as their evidence. This is the central problem that arises. It is what I have tried to highlight here as a blow in....