Exactly right!
So much happened in the past two months (news) yet so little happened (share price movement). Firstly, the biggest headwind currently is the plunging lithium prices. LiveWireNetworks published this report yesterday:
So, why are lithium prices down 40% since last November? Back then, the commodity was trading above US$86,100 per tonne, this figure is now US$47,417, according to Trading View.
The prices of lithium spodumene – the most widely exploited mineral source of lithium – have risen from US$400 a tonne three years ago to a peak of around US$6,000, before pulling back to US$4,500.
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Now, here’s where you have to stick with the fundamentals. The overall consensus is still a big supply/demand deficit into 2030. Mines still take 10-15 years to begin production. Spodumene prices increased by 2000% in 2 years before finally decreasing by 40% in 5 months (October 2022-March 2023). The 14% or so drop this week has been after 3 banks collapsed, Credit Suisse received a $50B Swiss francs bailout by the Swiss Central Bank, and the incredible uncertainty about another 2007-8 scenario occurring. SVB was the 2nd largest bank collapse. This time though seems like governments are PRINTING money to save the banks, whether in US or Europe. In fact, $300B was added to the Fed’s balance sheet this week (could be up to $2T by their estimates). So it took all that, and 2022 living the worst market performance since 2008, for lithium prices to go down 40% from the peak.
What if spodumene prices plummet -95%, back to US$400 per ton? Frankly, that would mean the electrification transition is over and some new battery chemistry has been commercialised in just 2-5 years. Even then, the technology would use lithium because, according to the PERIODIC TABLE, it is the:
- LIGHTEST metal
- HIGHEST electrochemical potential
- LARGEST energy density compared to its weight
So, lithium will ALWAYS be in demand, and with more electronic devices (vehicles, storage batteries, handheld devices, etc) being developed, it will always be used in these “new” chemistries. Also, it takes YEARS for this commercialisation, so for at least the next 2-5 years, lithium will not go all the way back to the US$400 lows of 2020 (during covid…) If we agree on this point, let’s be realistic. The first support level is 50% retracement, so US$4000 for spodumene. If things go dire, EV production halts worldwide, then perhaps it halves again to US$2000. But remember, it's not “technical analysis” it's real supply/demand. Just 3-5% of cars sold were electric last year in Australia and US. The goal is to increase that by 10-15X by 2030 (50% electric) or more in many countries. There are significant tailwinds coming up. One more thing: banks are on the brink of collapse = interest rate halts = money printing = short-term bull markets. Overall conclusions:
- Spot prices will NOT plunge to US$400
- Tailwinds include rate hike breathers, money printing, China EV demand opening-up
- Spot prices decreasing is arguing whether there are new chemistries already in full commercial production (takes 2-5 years MIN), demand slowing (contrary to EV targets), supply increasing (unless new mines come online in <3-5 years… that too won’t affect us now)
- Spot prices, IMO, may reach US$2000 absolute worst, based on nothing.. yeah but no one could predict it rising 20X either
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- Companies like FMG rose by 16X market cap in 2006-2008 ($2B to $32B) when the price of iron ore went 6X since the start of the century. So, the performance of a company does NOT depend on just the commodity price. As SB said, expand the resource and tonnage, and it can MORE than offset the decrease in price. Only the privileged "leading" producers can do this though. Performance is based on many other “intangible” strategic factors such as the right timing at the right place as they call it. Which is what I want to discuss now.
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- Comparing the profitability and portfolios of the world’s largest lithium (hard rock) producers
In this excel document, I’ve arduously compared 11 lithium producers (as much info as I could find... in reasonable time. Reading many 200 page annual reports is not fun). It’s important to compare primarily/purely lithium companies because then it becomes financially meaningful. Sayona is focused on its lithium operations first and foremost.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2uwbilju12qp9in/Global%20Lithium%20%28Hard%20Rock%29%20Producers.xlsx?dl=0
Comments | Comparison of lithium (hard rock) producers (AUD) | Location | Total Ore Reserves (Mt) | Contained Li2O (Kt) | Mining Period | Tonnage (t/yr) | Production Cost | Sales Contact Price | Ownership | NPV | NPAT yearly | Market Cap (Average, YTD) | Market Cap / NPAT Ratio | (Market Cap / Contained Li2O) * Ownership |
Conversion price: 1 USD = 1.5 AUD | | | | | | | | | | | | | Compares P/E ratios | Measures valuation per ton of Li2O owned |
OLD VALUATION | Sayona Mining Limited (ASX: SYA) | Canada | | | | | | | | | | | | |
What the market "knows" officially | North American Lithium | Abitibi Hub | 29.2 @ 0.96% Li2O | 280.3 | 2023-2049 | 200000 @6% | $873/t | $1836/t for 50%, $900/t for 50% | 75% | $844M | $151.4M | 2.129B @ $0.24 | 14X | Total ownership of 311.3 Kt Li2O. This gives $6,839/t |
| Authier |
| Tansim |
| Moblan | Northern Hub | 12.03 @1.4% Li2O | 168.4 | 2027- | TBA | TBA | TBA | 60% |
| Lac Albert |
NEW VALUATION | Sayona Mining Limited (ASX: SYA) | Canada | | | | | | | | | | | | |
What the future is, conservatively. Ignores downstream processing! | North American Lithium | Abitibi Hub | 29.2 @0.96% Li2O | 280.3 | 2023-2049 | 250000 @6% | $873/t | $3500 USD/t = $5200 AUD/t after 2024 for 100% | 75% | $4800M (see earlier NPV model post) | $1082M from 2024 and beyond | 2.129B @ $0.24 | 1.97X | Total ownership of 700.2 Kt Li2O. This gives $3,041/t |
| Authier |
| Tansim |
| Moblan | Northern Hub | 50 @1.4% Li2O | 699.9 | 2027- | TBA | TBA | TBA | 60% |
| Lac Albert |
| Pilbara Minerals Limited (ASX: PLS) | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
Uses current figures, obviously will improve! | Pilgangora | Australia | 159 | 1908 | 2019-2045 | 570000 | $1136/t | $7500/t | 100% | Outdated from 2018 | $1242M | 13.491B @ $4.5 | 11X | $7,071/t |
| Allkem Ltd (ASX: AKE) | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| Olaroz | Argentina | 16.2 Mt LCE | 6567 | 2014-2054 | 15000 LCE = 120000 @6% spod | $6926/t | $64854/t | 66.50% | NA | $632.2M | 7.651B @ $12 | 8.35X | Total ownership of 4526.7 Kt Li2O, for projects in production. This gives $1,690/t. Note majority comes from brine source not hard rock. Makes comparisons difficult. |
| Mt Cattlin | Australia | 13.3 @1.2% Li2O | 159.6 | 2021-2025 | 68000 @6% | $1353/t | $7700/t | 100% | $161.4M (3.83yr mine life) | $284.2M |
| Naraha (started production october 2022) | Japan | Use Olaroz Feedstock | Use Olaroz Feedstock | 2022- | 10000 LCE | NA | NA | 75% | NA | NA |
| Sal de Vida (development) | Argentina | 8.59 Mt LCE (stage 1+2) | 3470 | 2024-2064 | 45000 LCE | NA | NA | 100% | NA | NA |
| James Bay (design) | Canada | 37.2 @1.3% Li2O | 483.6 | 19 years | 321000 @5.6% | $500/t | $1500/t (quite conservative) | 100% | $2130M modelled | NA |
| Cauchari (pre-development) | Argentina | 4.8 Mt LCE | 1939 | NA | NA | NA | NA | 100% | NA | NA |
| Liontown Resources Limited (ASX: LTR) | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| Kathleen Valley (nearing production) | Australia | 68.5 @1.34% Li2O | 917.9 | 2024-2047 | 500000 (ramp up to 700000) @6% | $678/t | $2088/t | 100% | $4200M | $493.5M | $3.297B @ $1.5 | 6.68X | $3,592/t |
| Buldania | Australia | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA |
| Lihtium Hydroxide Refinery (design) | Australia | NA | NA | 2027- | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA |
| Core Lithium Limited (ASX: CXO) | | | | | | | | | | | | 23.66X (incorrect in reality, NPAT understated!) | |
| Finniss | Australia | 7.4 @1.3% Li2O | 97.9 | 2023-2033 | 197000 @5.8% | $546/t | $1115/t (July 2021 DFS. Too conservative) | 100% | $140M outdated model | $78.4M | $1.855B @ $1 | $18,948/t (short lifespan, tiny resource) |
Global Producers | Albemarle Corporation (NYSE: ALB) | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
Lot of missing information | Greenbushes (largest mine in the world) | Australia | 69.9 @ 1.95% Li2O | 1363 | 1983 | Multiple conversion facilities. Overall, 200000 LCE = 1.6 Mt @6% spod | NA | NA | 49% | NA | $3375M | $43950B @ $375 | 13X | NA. Total ownership is a bad metric, have a portfolio of assets and conversion facilities that take feedstock from various brines/hard rock sources |
| Wodgina | Australia | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | 60% | NA | |
| Kings Mountain (development) | US | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | 100% | NA | |
| Silver Peak | US | 62 Mt @ 84mg/L | 5.2 | NA | NA | NA | 100% | NA | |
| Salar de Atacama | Chile | 647 Mt @ 2071mg/L | 1340 | NA | NA | NA | 100% | NA | |
| Tianqi Lithium Corp (SHE: 002466, HKG: 9696) | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| Greenbushes (largest mine in the world) | Australia | 69.9 @ 1.95% Li2O | 1363 | 2021- | Already included as refinery feedstock | | | 26.01% | | $5150M | $32B | 6.21X | NA |
| Kwinana Plant (hydroxide refinery) | Australia | | | | 48000 LCE | | | 51% | |
| Anju (carbonate refinery) | Sichuan | | | | 20000 LCE | | | | |
| Zhangjiagang (carbonate refinery) | Jiangsu | | | | 20000 LCE | | | | |
| Shehong (mixed products refinery) | Sichuan | | | 1995- | 24200 LCE | | | | |
| Livent Corp (NYSE: LTHM) | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| Zhejiang (hydroxide plant) | China | NA | NA | 2024- | 15000 LCE | | | | | $410.3M | $6.464B @ $36 | 15.75X | NA, ingests feedstock for refineries. However, currently with 2857 Kt Li2O, the measure gives $4617/t |
| Fenix (Salar de Hombre Muerto) | Argentina | 7.071 Mt LCE | 2857 | 1997- | 20000 LCE | | | 49% | |
| North Carolina (hydroxide plant) | US | NA | NA | 2023- | 5000 LCE | | | | |
| Whabouchi (development) | Canada | | | 2025- | | | | | |
| Bécancour (hydroxide development) | Canada | From Whabouchi mine | | 2026- | 34000 LCE | | | | |
| Sigma Lithium Corp (CVE: SGML, TSX-V/NASDAQ: SGML) | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| Grota do Cirilo | Brazil | 13.79 @ 1.46% Li2O | 201.3 | 2023-2032 | 220000 @ 6% | $74.5/t | $1050/t (extremely conservative) | 100% | $372.8M outdated model | $150.2M | $3.384B @ $32.7 | 22.5X (from very conservative numbers) | $16810/t |
| Lithium Americas Corp (NYSE: LAC) | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| Cauchari-Olaroz | Argentina | 1.952 Mt LCE | 788.6 | 2023-2063 | 40000 LCE | $5400/t | $18000/t (conservative) | 44.80% | | 323.4M | $4.758B @ $31.5 | Only Cauchari-Olaroz is producing near-term. Gives 14.7X (ignores debt and current net losses) | Total ownership of 2229 Kt Li2O. This gives $2135/t |
| Pastos Grandes (development) | Argentina | 0.943 Mt LCE | 381 | NA (40 years) | 24000 LCE | $5070/t | $19,600/t (conservative) | 100% | | |
Largest resource in US | Thacker Pass (development) | US | 3.7 Mt LCE | 1495 | 2026-2066 | 40000 LCE (phase 1, phase 2 doubles) | $10115/t | $36000/t (RECENT, from 2023) | 100% | $7425M | 1008M |
| Ganfeng Lithium Group Co Ltd (SHE: 002460) | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| Cauchari-Olaroz | Argentina | 1.952 Mt LCE | 788.6 | 2023-2063 | 40000 LCE | $5400/t | $18000/t (conservative) | 46.70% | | 0verall $5815M | $26.565B @ $16.5 | 4.57X | NA |
| Mount Marion | Australia | | | | 900000 | | | 50% | |
| Mariana (construction) | Argentina | | | | 20000 Lithium Chloride | | | 100% | |
| Sonora | Mexico | | | | 20000 LCE | | | 100% | |
| Goulamina (construction) | Mali | | | | 506000 | | | 50% | |
| Various refineries/recycling at Jiangsi, Hebei, etc | | | | | | | | | |
From the figures, one can summarise that the market is valuing lithium companies from OFFICIAL, sometimes OUTDATED and UNDERSTATED, feasibility studies. Many DFS presented low-ball contract prices (AKE’s James Bay, CXO’s Finniss, SGML’s Grota Do Cirilo all being <AU$1500/t). The companies appear fairly valued based on official figures, but in the current environment, many lithium plays should have a rerate. It’s an industry-wide trend. When NEWER, OFFICIAL, documents will be released (with higher contracts pricing), the P/E ratios will suddenly NOT be 15-20X, but more like 5X. This will help a rerate in share prices.
For example, institutions see Sayona as “fairly valued” because, from the conservative PFS ($1800/t), our NPAT is ~$151M. Giving a P/E of 14X at the moment, pretty much fair value (ignoring projects in development). However, the current pricing is AU$ 6750/t. If it goes down another 25% to say AU$5200/t, the NPV shoots up to $4.8B for NAL ONLY. The NPAT surges to $1B and the P/E ratio shrinks to a tiny 1.97X. Ignoring every other project (even Moblan). So, thinking clearly, even at prices plummeting 50% from the highs of AU$10K/t, Sayona should be rerating to ~AU$5B market cap. And remember the importance of these “OFFICIAL” documents? Well, Moblan will be in the spotlight very soon, so don’t forget to add a couple of billion dollars’ value there.
2. Determining the “intangible value” of Sayona’s strategies
Sayona is building vertically integrated hubs, nearby other mining entities and the end users. This proximity will give tangible value with greater access to expand assets, M&A (as Silent-Bubbles has brilliantly pointed out past few months), and source feedstock from other mining operations. A LOT of realised benefits. And, because this is a long-term vision, Sayona is likely on the hot list for government funding. Any delays or financial difficulties to fast-track downstream production will be solved quickly, especially with the billions of dollars in the Critical Minerals Strategy and various energy/defence grants Sayona could be eligible for. The funding announcement is going to be very left-field and significantly improve the sentiment. After all, many explorers and developers are stuck and have dreams that may NOT be fulfilled. Funding is key, and we have plenty to do “big steps, quickly” e.g. potentially buy the resolute factory in Amos.
3. Revisiting technical analysis: Bullish Pennant
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I did say, we would see 39 cents by 6th February. There was a cup and handle pattern which broke down. Even if you don’t follow technical analysis, the second time it went 37 cents from 11 cents should have been a clear signal of Sayona’s value. It did this during the worst lithium “spook” market in mid-2022. Now, 6-weeks after my prediction, the rally has been delayed and delayed to form a rising pennant pattern. Basically, the longer fundamentals take to be verified/proven to the market, the longer the technicals will delay a rerate. We’re nearing the critical “bounce” point, which should happen before the month’s end. The 39 cents ATH is not far off, even with decreasing lithium prices. Moonrocket has kindly provided a nice list of announcements to look forward to. Being debt-free, there’s only upwards movement from here (unless spodumene prices dive to AU$1.8K/t, where we would STILL ONLY be fairly valued. Still no downside . Oh and that ignores every other project. So cheer up fellas, the show has not even begun ![wink.png](https://hotcopper.com.au/images/smilies/wink.png)