Hah, Moon,I wont throw out the jealousy line, that the spivs chuck at me. I think, he's the last one, entering in 1974. Working only from memory, no on else can get it, did you arc up, when col got it? If, he takes on a salaried role, is he entitled to the WA pension? I'm just guessing, but for tax reasons, why would you draw on it, until, he officially retires.?