Stephen Sakur is what you might call an "in your face" interviewer. Quite often you miss part of his interviews because they're both talking at the same time.
Here's a couple I've just got round to listening to:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct4p7m
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct4p7t
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