Russia Ukraine war, page-179158

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    1. At what cost? You do remember that back in March 2022 this whole thing could have been avoided, and the Ukrainian army could have saved itself from all the detahs and destruction. You remember what the conditions were? Russia propmised to leave all the territories that it occupied by since Feb 2022 (the territories which Ukrainians have been loosing their lives over in tens of thousands in the last year and a half). And in return Ukraine was about to agree to provide security guarantees and assurance of neutrality (non-involvement with NATO). Then one of the Ukrainian-side negotiators got shot, and good old Boris Johnson ecounraged Zel to keep ploughing forward with his war effort.

    2. Doesn't mean anything in the big scheme of things. Even if those reports were true. They've crossed the main defence line 3 times in the last few weeks. So what?

    3. US intelligence officials (the same ones that are feeding Ukraine with military intel) are saying that Ukraine will not achieve it's "counter-offensive" objectives. I'd say they have a little more credibility that Zel's government, that have officially stated things such as "the hot phase of the war will be over in 2-3 weeks, back in March 2022. Combined with the diminishing support of funding for Ukraine from US/EU, it's pretty safe to say that the objectives will not be achieved and the conflict will be frozen within the next few months.

    A conflict that could have been avoided altogether, if Zel's government carried through with it's March 2022 negotiations.
 
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