the new mob have been there for 3 weeks 1 day .. the old mob for years .. whatever comes out this 4c is 100% on the old mob AND Riv V .. so after 6 months + of telling us all of strong pipelines and momentum building etc we will soon see what they and Ric have actually achieved .. new mob will need to time to adjust anything should they see it needs adjusting .. we all wait for facts.. and then we'll know..
Catalysts for the inevitable price POP, page-75
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