4DS - Anything but Charting, page-28470

Vinneh, you state:
“ I am expressing the FACT that 4DS memory does not have any meaningful retention, as per their inability to provide any data, even initial sample data, relating to retention”

It seems you are once again entering the ‘Trumpian’ world of ALTERNATIVE FACTS. I just wish you wouldn’t use words like FACTS like you do. It cheapens the word, especially when you say “as per their inability to provide data”.

Do you really think they are unaware of their ASX reporting responsibilities? They constantly state we have a ReRam technology which is NVM (Which means we have retention) . Please explain why IMEC see such great possibilities? ( and not just for their bank account for services provided). You don’t seem to want to examine the reasons why they might be ‘unable’ to provide ‘official’ data. ……mjshackl has provided a rational response already regarding this.

They say they haven’t fully tested this metric to properly quantify it. The company have said they have retention, and it is tunable. One might even think that ‘tunable’ means there must be ant least a period of retention big enough to be sliced up to different retention periods ??????? Dunno !

I understand your frustration. I want answers as well because it is critical information, but you can’t just assume there is negligible retention just because they haven’t given you the precise metrics yet.

I understand the reluctance of the company to release half baked data. It would be irresponsible I believe. If the initial sample data was incomplete or not accurate then it’s early release could either smash the share price or blow the top off it !! Either way it would not be good and open the BoD to a world of legal woes and damages, if this data proves inaccurate … (either way)

To me it appears they are trying to keep a lid on expectations because the journey to 20nm could either undo or make the metrics achieved so far ….completely irrelevant.

It is certainly frustrating ……. but they must have their reasons.
I don’t think it is wise to go down a path promoting ideas that reek of deception by the company….. how long before we start getting a raft of conspiracy theories being trumpeted (so to speak).