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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
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Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
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97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
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272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
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FWIW there are also some pending expansion choices on big batteries are coming up from Equis Energy which is developing one of the largest big battery systems in the world - the $1.1billion Melbourne Renewable Energy Hub :
https://www.whitecase.com/news/pres...is-a11-billion-melbourne-renewable-energy-hub
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https://www.equis.com.au/renewable-energy-hub.
IE down the track that hub may triple in size and - according to the (very useful) AFR report on the state of play in Australia for big batteries) from 01/12/23 in the spoiler, vanadium flow batteries ARE among those under consideration!
Equis founder, David Russel is quoted in the story saying the future 600 MW stage of the MRH could have as much as 12 hours of energy storage, and that he is watching companies where ..” specialist contractors are refining the art of assembling the battery modules.”
https://www.afr. com/policy/energy-and-climate/why-2024-will-be-the-year-of-the-big-battery-20231205-p5epa7
Why 2024 will be the year of the big battery
Ben Potter and Angela Macdonald-Smith
Jan 2, 2024 – 4.56pm
KEY POINTS
Why it’s important:
A surge in big batteries means they can do more to ease summer blackouts then we thought
Context: Energy storage is needed to “firm” wind and solar power as coal exits the grid
What’s next: Longer duration storage will be needed for long winter lulls in wind and solar output
Big batteries are emerging as backstops to a faltering energy transition that can help avoid blackouts, balance supply and demand and smooth out volatile prices to a surprising extent that is only just starting to be captured by official projections.
This year is set to be the first in which the capacity of new big – or utility scale – batteries starting construction in Australia exceeds the combined capacity of new wind and solar farms breaking ground, according to data from Rystad Energy, a consultancy.
An artist’s image of what the Melbourne Renewable Energy Hub, developed by Equis Energy and the State Electricity Commission of Victoria, will look like.
One of their roles is to “firm” wind and solar energy by soaking up surpluses and discharging during shortages.
The more larger batteries with longer “duration” – the length of time they can discharge at full capacity – get built and connected to the grid, the better they will be able to replace rapidly retiring coal plants in that role, experts say.
By the 2026-27 financial year – three years away – Rystad expects the aggregate capacity of utility-scale storage operating in the grid, under construction or at the pre-construction stage to exceed 10 gigawatts.
That’s about a fifth more than the aggregate storage capacity projected by the Australian Energy Market Operator in its draft 2024 Integrated System Plan released last month – and more than twice the amount projected in AEMO’s 2022 Integrated System Plan.
“Do we have enough dispatchable capacity to start replacing some of the coal power stations during those peak periods? It certainly looks like we’re now getting pretty close to that point,” says David Dixon, senior analyst for Australian renewables at Rystad.
Big batteries have been getting steadily larger, and their duration – how long they can run at full power – has been growing, too. Last month, Equis Energy and Victoria’s State Electricity Commission signed off on the $1.1 billion first stage of the Melbourne Renewable Energy Hub, a 600 megawatt battery array with 1600 megawatt hours of energy capacity – enough to run for just over two and a half hours at full power.
A second 600 MW stage could have as much as 12 hours of energy storage – enough to power households through the night.
A week earlier, Blackrock’s Akaysha Energy won federal Capacity Investment Scheme backing for its Orana battery, a 415 MW, four-hour (1660 MWh) battery at Wellington, in NSW’s Central West Orana Renewable Energy Zone. Akaysha is also developing the 850 MW/1680 MWh Waratah Super Battery at Lake Munmorah. Nearby, Origin Energy and AGL Energy are developing batteries with 460MW to 500 MW capacity.
All in all, there are about 5 gigawatts of big batteries under construction, Dixon says, enough to replace the recently retired Liddell coal-fired power station and Eraring, due to retire in 2025.
This makes them the best performing part of the energy transition – alongside the unstoppable juggernaut of rooftop solar.
The bulging pipeline – at a time when few large wind and solar projects are getting final investment decisions – suggests there is more “firming” capacity coming into the grid than AEMO has assumed in recent reports warning of increased risks of blackouts and brownouts as coal-fired power exits the grid at an accelerating rate.
There’s an important caveat to this.
Big batteries with up to about four hours of storage will increasingly be able to deal with hot summer evening peaks – when everyone comes home and turns on their air conditioners, electric stoves and TVs and demand surges for a few hours.
But much longer duration storage will be needed to deal with long winter lulls – rare periods of low wind and sun that last for days, if not weeks.
Winter blues
Daniel Nugent, head of portfolio development at Energy Australia, says four-hour batteries “are going to play a much more meaningful role for energy security, keeping the lights on for that evening peak on that hot summer day”.
But for the winter lulls after most coal plants have closed, the electricity market “still looks incredibly tight”, Nugent says.
“With lots of batteries of four hours, that summer peak will be less of a challenge in the future, but the real challenge is going to be in the depths of winter … that’s when we need that much longer duration storage.
“We just don’t have the technology for that at the moment, so that’s why gas in short bursts provides a key role in that transition. It means the coal plants can come out of the system. It means you have more confidence that you can then retire the coal and the lights won’t go out.”
Lithium-ion batteries have cornered the market for storage of four hours and less, as well as electric vehicles. But they are costly for longer durations, which require different battery chemistries and storage technologies.
Pumped hydro also provides long duration storage, but it needs favourable terrain; projects such as Snowy 2.0 and Kidston – way over budget and schedule – deter others.
Some developers are looking to flow batteries – which use liquid electrolytes such as zinc bromide and vanadium – for longer durations. Equis Energy is studying different battery chemistries for the second 600 MW stage of the Melbourne Renewable Energy Hub, which will have eight to 12 hours of storage, says founder David Russell.
Big batteries are flourishing, while wind, solar and transmission projects are stalled, because they are easier to build and get to market, can be put almost anywhere in the grid, and ease transmission network congestion problems that new wind and solar farms often make worse, says Dixon.
The footprint is much smaller, often on old power station sites or wind and solar farms, community opposition is muted, and specialist contractors are refining the art of assembling the battery modules.
Lithium is cheap
Unlike wind turbines, inflation isn’t getting away either – the price of lithium has fallen steadily for a year. “The pricing that we’re seeing in the market now is actually quite low,” says Akaysha chief executive Nick Carter.
That doesn’t mean there aren’t supply chain problems. The sheer volume of batteries required for electric vehicles and grids, and hundreds of billions of dollars of incentives for clean energy in the US and Europe, makes them inevitable, Carter says.
“Lots of people are signing up and wanting more and more batteries, and suppliers of the cells and the modules they’re all scrambling to increase production capacity.”
This goes for essential items such as transformers, says Equis’ Russell. “Anyone that’s not financially closing this year, and getting purchase orders in for transformers – if they’re telling you they’re going to be operational by 2025, that is very inconsistent with what we’re seeing in the market.”
The role of big batteries is also changing. The first big battery – Neoen’s Hornsdale Power Reserve in South Australia – was ridiculed for only providing a few minutes of the state’s total demand when it debuted in 2017. But its main role was to provide vital system strength and FCAS (frequency control ancillary services) to the state’s grid, and it earned Neoen good profits doing so.
As batteries of longer duration enter the market, they will increasingly shift energy from daytime solar floods – when prices often turn negative – to evening demand peaks when prices soar, says Neil Fraser, head of natural resources, energy and carbon at Commonwealth Bank of Australia, which helped fund the 185 MW Koorangie Battery near Kerang, Victoria.
“To date it’s been FCAS, but we do think that over time, arbitrage is going to be quite an important revenue stream,” says Fraser.
Multiple revenue streams make batteries easier to finance. Koorangie has a 15-year offtake agreement with Shell Energy, and a 20-year system strength contract with AEMO. The expansion of the federal Capacity Investment Scheme to 23 GW of wind and solar power and 9 GW of storage and other dispatchable capacity means the demand isn’t going away, says Fraser.
Big batteries aren’t silver bullets, but they may be a key part of a more optimistic picture of the grid’s evolution than we often paint.
“Relative to like the Snowys of this world which just keep getting delayed – if you’re short on capacity that this is the way to bring it into the market quick,” says Rystad’s Dixon.
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
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piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by bigdump
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so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Posted by diatribe
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fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
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diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
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Posted by bendigo
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Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
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Posted by NR
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all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
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Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Posted by Rocker
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well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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